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What would kiteboarding look like without China?

Postby jmach » Mon May 04, 2020 3:33 pm

Just a Hypothetical question but given the current tensions with China, what would happen to the kiteboarding equipment supply chain in an all-out trade war?
What equipment is not made there?
There’s kite manufactures in Sri Lanka, Vietnam and Slovakia to name a few. Any others?
The major ripstop maker, Teijin, is based in Japan, not sure where it is actually made however. Lines, boards and harnesses, not sure.

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Re: What would kiteboarding look like without China?

Postby Da Yoda » Mon May 04, 2020 5:39 pm

NO DIFFERENT!!!
Materials can be and currently already are sourced elsewhere. e.g. Japan, UK, & US
Factories can be and currently already are sourced elsewhere. e.g. Philippines, Vietnam, & Sri Lanka
At the very most, equipment could be a bit more expensive, but highly doubtful.
China will be a dying market for production after Covid imo. I know many who now DO NOT want nor WILL NOT buy Made in China products moving forward.

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Re: What would kiteboarding look like without China?

Postby Toby » Mon May 04, 2020 6:19 pm

I prefer to buy from other countries too.
Made in EU or USA...happy to support.
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Re: What would kiteboarding look like without China?

Postby nixmatters » Mon May 04, 2020 7:01 pm

As for the kite supply chain:
Teijin produces fabrics in few factories in China, not sure where they make kite canopies and dacron, but I strongly doubt it's Japan. There are few other well established suppliers in Thailand, Taiwan and Japan. DP, Contender and Porcher still make a lot in Europe.
Boards - Playmaker in Taiwan and Cobra in Thailand. Plus some decent capacities in Poland. And Duotone in Austria.
Bladder material from Taiwan and Europe. Most lines are made in Europe too.
Almost all other components and materials come or can be sourced outside of China.
The majority of good quality wetsuits - Thailand.
The industry can do without China, but prices will certainly go up.
Btw, all major US kite brands are made in China.

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Re: What would kiteboarding look like without China?

Postby Da Yoda » Mon May 04, 2020 7:12 pm

When it comes to kite related gear and a lot of outdoor and water sports gear (staying on topic), I can find high quality products (especially nowadays) that are made domestically or in non-China countries. Hopefully that grows! Now please go away or stay and talk something kiting related. :bye:
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Re: What would kiteboarding look like without China?

Postby edt » Mon May 04, 2020 8:21 pm

If you run a small business you would quickly get over any anti China basis. It's not just the wages it's more difficult to produce a high quality product here. The past 100 years have been spent making the world now globally connected in every way. It will take another 100 years to undo it and I don't see that happening. Nobody can predict the future so who knows.

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Re: What would kiteboarding look like without China?

Postby fernmanus » Tue May 05, 2020 12:00 am

The Chinese people are industrious, talented, and productive. It is sad that their oppressive government do not have a clue. Bully tactics are not going to bring Western Companies around, nor lying to the world about the disease. They don't get that transparency is vital in a global economy. The people of China will suffer because of the foolishness of their leaders.
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Re: What would kiteboarding look like without China?

Postby mar menor » Tue May 05, 2020 10:05 am

fernmanus wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 12:00 am
The Chinese people are industrious, talented, and productive. It is sad that their oppressive government do not have a clue. Bully tactics are not going to bring Western Companies around, nor lying to the world about the disease. They don't get that transparency is vital in a global economy. The people of China will suffer because of the foolishness of their leaders.
"The Chinese people are industrious, talented, and productive." all 1.393 billion of them? Bit of a generalisation...... :allbegood:

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Re: What would kiteboarding look like without China?

Postby SolarSet » Tue May 05, 2020 12:17 pm

Kitesurfing gear cost so much money and it's not mass produced comparing to some other sports gear that having production in EU or other non-china country is not impossible. As mentioned in Poland there are few kiteboard/foil manufactures, probably two most famous are Nobile and Shinn. It's not a rocket science to build kitesurfing gear hence what does it matter were it's build? I would rather ask question if gear was better quality and lasted longer would I have been keen to pay more but keep it longer to reduce impact on waste? Myself yes and as a result I would boycott gear from manufacturers who release gear every year with main difference of graphical colours. It's like going to supermarket and taking single use plastic bag rather than bring own bags.

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Re: What would kiteboarding look like without China?

Postby longwhitecloud » Tue May 05, 2020 1:27 pm

What would kiteboarding look like without China?

It would like Kiteboarding.

Changes ahead though manufacturing wise, no doubt about that.

When you travel a lot you realise that most people you meet are good people, wherever they are from. (Unless they foil).


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