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Re: Where Should I Move To Retire & Kite?

Postby LeoLeal » Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:59 am

Toby wrote:
Sun Jun 07, 2020 8:55 am
In Brazil you pay 100 USD for a private health insurance.

Now compare that to the US...
I'm Brazilian and live in northeast 800 km south of Cumbuco.
City: Recife . State: Pernambuco.

I have never been in Cumbuco but I have a ideia about cost of live.

I'm far away from retirement as Im 35. But if I have to choose today a spot to live as a retired, Cabedelo -Paraiba will be in my number 1 of my list.

Cabedelo is 15 min from Joao Pessoa, one of the smallest capital state in Brazil. Life over there are calm , people are polite , you have a infrastructure for you wife go to a Mall, lots of restaurants, gym.

The wind range is 9 to 13 knots most of the time off season. And on season 11 a 15 knots. If you have a foil board and a light wind kite I can assure you at least 1 or 2 times per week you will be on water.

If you have interest i can film the beach and show how the spot is.

How about cost of living here

healthcare insurance: 1500 reais per person até 65 years old. Here it's necessary have this , public hospital are suck.

Food : 1000 reais for months per person .

House or apartment , ocean view : 700k - 1000k reais
House or apartment : 100 m² , 400 m away from the ocean 300-500k. If you rent 3k to 5k with taxs.

Resume: To live a great life here it's necessary 25.000 reais per month. 5k USD per mouth you will be rich here .

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Re: Where Should I Move To Retire & Kite?

Postby Toby » Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:29 am

Thx, that would be up to 300 USD for health insurance.

25.000 sounds a lot...even with 15.000 life will be good with daily dining at restaurants.

That’s some weak wind down there...I have been near Pipa (Natal) and locals told me they good good winds too (more like Cumbuco).

But, best winds are North of Fortaleza.
That’s why it is kiting Hotspot #1 in Brazil.

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Re: Where Should I Move To Retire & Kite?

Postby Toby » Sun Jun 07, 2020 12:17 pm

Puerto Rico should be a good alternative too.
It is USA.
Gets good winds, has flat water and good wave spots.
Two city spots in San Juan. Beautiful old town.

Real estate I Heard is pretty cheap currently...

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Re: Where Should I Move To Retire & Kite?

Postby LeoLeal » Sun Jun 07, 2020 3:41 pm

Toby wrote:
Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:29 am
Thx, that would be up to 300 USD for health insurance.

25.000 sounds a lot...even with 15.000 life will be good with daily dining at restaurants.

That’s some weak wind down there...I have been near Pipa (Natal) and locals told me they good good winds too (more like Cumbuco).

But, best winds are North of Fortaleza.
That’s why it is kiting Hotspot #1 in Brazil.
R$15.000 you can live a normal life here. Nothing fancy.

Pipa is a famous beach in Rio Grande do Norte, it's 60 km from Natal (Rio Grande do Norte Capital). Lots of foreign are living there. I personally don't like kiting in Pipa because it's a wavespot and I don't think it's safe but there are kitesurfer over there.
12 km south there is a another beach called Barra do Cunhau this beach has two kind of spot some parts are protected by reef so flat water at low tide and the parts you don't have a reef there is waves. 12- 18 knots

Cumbuco, Jericoacoara , Canoa Quebrada, Preá all this beach are in Ceará, and Fortaleza are the capital.
Neither of this city have a good hospital near. If you have some health problem it's necessary to go to Fortaleza. Cumbuco, as you said it's 60km North from Fortaleza . The others that I mentioned are more than 100km.
It's undoubted that in Ceara has the strongest wind in Brazil. But this beach are not so develop as the one I mentioned.

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Re: Where Should I Move To Retire & Kite?

Postby Toby » Sun Jun 07, 2020 3:54 pm

Cumbuco is not 60 km from Fortaleza.
It’s 45 min drive to airport or to better private hospital.

Nearest point of Fortaleza is 20 min away, farest 60 min.

Barra do Cunhau is a very nice spot indeed, with flat water and waves.

You can rent an apartment in Cumbuco long term for 1500 R. Newly build. 1 bedroom. Maybe 2000 for 2 bedroom.

Energy quiet expensive with about 150-300 R per month.

Dining 100 R per person in a top restaurant in Cumbuco.

Can go as low as 10 Reais for lunch.

Car I rent for 1500 R long term.

So 15.000 R gives you a lot of room for drinking, gas, fun, clothes etc.

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Re: Where Should I Move To Retire & Kite?

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Re: Where Should I Move To Retire & Kite?

Postby Madraoulas » Sun Jun 14, 2020 9:05 am

Go Greece ...in islands (Cyclades..like Paros, Naxos)..and you'll never regret/life is a dream there and always kitesurf time

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Re: Where Should I Move To Retire & Kite?

Postby KafeYine » Sun Jun 14, 2020 1:47 pm

All of Europe is prone to frost in winter and if you're used to $100 utility bills a month, you won't notice much change here either. Energy is generally speaking expensive in Europe (also petrol/diesel/etc).
If you have a non-kiting wife who wants to be happy too and you don't want too much trouble with visa/residency/language etc, just go to Hawaii.
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Re: Where Should I Move To Retire & Kite?

Postby Jamesconn300 » Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:06 am

John Doe wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 5:40 pm
Thanks in advance for any advice. I know there have been a few posts like this before. But, I am wondering where in the world I should move to retire & kite???? A few parameters below:

I am an American, U.S., so I guess this means I'm limited to 3 months in some countries? Even if I buy property? Ideally I would like to move to foreign country.
I am married & need stuff for my non-kiting wife. She couldn't be in the middle of nowhere.
I like to surf. I like to kite waves. Not sure I could handle flat-water only.
I am not rich but if I sell my house in California I could buy one somewhere cheaper with money left over to invest.
I speak some Spanish & some French but feel that I would have a better chance becoming fluent in Spanish.
Warm water is a must. It's freezing where I live, I'm over it!
The country would have to have favorable economic parameters for a foreigner coming in.

I've traveled a bit but I think the big thing is the legality. I have some Portuguese friends & one is married for 30 years to an American. They've had a really tough time getting permission to have him stay in the country for more than 3 months, even with her citizenship & owning property. I'd love it there but because of that I don't think it would work.

Thoughts????
The real issue here is California state taxes/government. Specifically income tax. Florida or Texas is much more reasonable. It's not only yourself who are fleeing communist California.
The cost of living could be half or better in TX or FL.. I would leave asap. Declare permanent residency somewhere else in the meantime. Look at the streets of LA SF... third world country with the highest cost of living, what are you paying for exactly? tent cities? Own nice apartment in FL, live there in winter, then spend the summer in your Brazillian villa?

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Re: Where Should I Move To Retire & Kite?

Postby kit3surfer » Sat Jun 20, 2020 10:18 am

My advice for you would be to stay where your roots, your Family and your Friends are and try to travel as much as possible.
Even if you would find a new perfect place, it would never be the same Feeling as home with all your People. You will Always be the foreigner to the locals.
And beside this, even the best Surfing or kiting conditions get boring after a certain while and Things like Family and friends move in the foreground.
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