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Best jump machine (board) for big air?

Postby Flyingseb » Sat Jun 06, 2020 9:55 pm

Not being able to test many boards and talk to riders into jumping (in my area most of them are focused on surfing), I would like to know what boards are known to be good or perfect jumping machines.
What are the most important characteristics? Rocker, weight, width, carene design?

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Re: Best jump machine (board) for big air?

Postby downunder » Sun Jun 07, 2020 3:42 am

Recycling old theme...

IMO nothing has changed. Technique is the best machine. Everything else is superficial or personal.

Two ski jumpers, same gear, weight etc. Who will jump better?

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Re: Best jump machine (board) for big air?

Postby deniska » Sun Jun 07, 2020 4:54 am

simple... race hydrofoils by big margin in 90% of conditions.. in other 10% of conditions (big wind/swell) any smallish TT with bigger fins would do the job...

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Re: Best jump machine (board) for big air?

Postby Flyingseb » Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:58 am

Let’s say I was expecting to get some answers from big air guys, promoting their up to date new boards.
Hydrofoil is out of question for me, really to specific, and expensive (even more if damaged).
Technique is off course very important, but you can try to jump as big as you use to, but with a board not design for it, and I’m pretty sure you can get only half the height.
Long time ago I trade off standard TT for more a specific kind of TT, as to get more confort in choppy water, and more drive in big curves, but I instantly lost ability to set a very good jump impulse, especially on flat water. I did accommodate to this, to get the best out of it. Since then, I know my board is not a good big air board.
It sure is a subject that has already been discussed here, but things are in constant evolution, one can hope for some novelty about boards performance. There is so much more talk about kite performance.
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Re: Best jump machine (board) for big air?

Postby dice » Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:41 am

Is there a real evolution going on in the boards though?

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Re: Best jump machine (board) for big air?

Postby downunder » Sun Jun 07, 2020 12:21 pm

Flyingseb wrote:
Sun Jun 07, 2020 10:58 am
Let’s say I was expecting to get some answers from big air guys, promoting their up to date new boards.
Hydrofoil is out of question for me, really to specific, and expensive (even more if damaged).
Technique is off course very important, but you can try to jump as big as you use to, but with a board not design for it, and I’m pretty sure you can get only half the height.
Long time ago I trade off standard TT for more a specific kind of TT, as to get more confort in choppy water, and more drive in big curves, but I instantly lost ability to set a very good jump impulse, especially on flat water. I did accommodate to this, to get the best out of it. Since then, I know my board is not a good big air board.
It sure is a subject that has already been discussed here, but things are in constant evolution, one can hope for some novelty about boards performance. There is so much more talk about kite performance.

Yeah, I like the naked carbon as evolution ;) With big wide squares.

Put it this way, if there is one single board absolutely blasting for big air, would Kota riders use that one than?

Nope. They use whatever they are comfortable with (and sponsored).

There are no big airs if not stomping the board on flat water.

And no, half is huge overstatement. With my DIY board I jump the same or higher as the guys on expensive gear.

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Re: Best jump machine (board) for big air?

Postby fernmanus » Sun Jun 07, 2020 2:59 pm

Gosh, you guys are a bit harsh. The guy is just looking for a couple good board recommendations. It is true that the board is not all that important for big air. Technique is most important, followed by kite choice, and then the board.

I have had great luck with the Crazyfly Raptor Boards and North now Duotone Team Board. You want a board that you can ride fast for the conditions. However, I have had big airs on oversized light wind boards, surf boards, surfy twin tips, etc. I have to agree with the other posters that it is not the board that makes the difference. I personally like a lightweight, short carbon fiber board in big winds, not so much that it helps me jump higher, more that it is easier on my abs to have a light board and it is fun to charge hard on a small board.
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Re: Best jump machine (board) for big air?

Postby nothing2seehere » Sun Jun 07, 2020 3:12 pm

Get a Ten Kiteboarding 'The Mark'. The extra heelside fin makes all the difference in controlling the power. Easy. Topic done.

https://ten-kiteboarding.com/the-mark/

However - you might get bigger gains by getting an advanced lesson or two? Boards make a difference but skill makes a bigger difference
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Re: Best jump machine (board) for big air?

Postby fat blokes can fly » Sun Jun 07, 2020 4:45 pm

Another vote for the Ten Kiteboarding Mark board.

My 2 previous boards where also designed by Eddy Lansink.

As mentioned it's all about technique and balls,wind speed, sea state, fitness, strength etc etc.

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Re: Best jump machine (board) for big air?

Postby Matt_TYRCZ » Sun Jun 07, 2020 4:57 pm

Raptor Extreme - all you need !
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