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Re: Duotone 2021

Postby wrogu » Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:21 am

ichabod wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 6:30 am
Can anyone confirm if the new trust bar has detachable pigtails like the clickbar now?
In 2020 it already had (or maybe even earlier, cba to check :wink: ):

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Re: Duotone 2021

Postby andikite » Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:34 am

wrogu wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:55 pm
andikite wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:40 pm
Anybody has pictures of new lines?
Here you are.

https://ibb.co/5rsDZcf

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Thanks!! But please, wash with fresh water your bars!!

Lines looks very nice. I can see that monofilament has different colors depending of each line..

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Re: Duotone 2021

Postby Kitemenn » Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:35 am

SolarSet wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:11 am
front line auto untwist only in click bar?
Yes it needs the PU covered Lines to do that which is only available in CB

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Re: Duotone 2021

Postby SolarSet » Fri Sep 11, 2020 8:04 am

Kitemenn wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:35 am
SolarSet wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:11 am
front line auto untwist only in click bar?
Yes it needs the PU covered Lines to do that which is only available in CB
it seems that in price point of thrust bar cost of additional PU cover couldn't be allocated... it a bit shame as not everyone likes complicated click bar and would like to use thrust bar with autountwist...

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Re: Duotone 2021

Postby nothing2seehere » Fri Sep 11, 2020 8:48 am

ichabod wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 6:30 am
Can anyone confirm if the new trust bar has detachable pigtails like the clickbar now?
Do you need them? The Click bar has them because there aren't the rear line trim length options on the bar like you have in the Trust bar so your only way of adjusting for line stretch/shrinkage is to alter the pigtails front and back until they match.

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Re: Duotone 2021

Postby ichabod » Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:15 am

nothing2seehere wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 8:48 am
ichabod wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 6:30 am
Can anyone confirm if the new trust bar has detachable pigtails like the clickbar now?
Do you need them? The Click bar has them because there aren't the rear line trim length options on the bar like you have in the Trust bar so your only way of adjusting for line stretch/shrinkage is to alter the pigtails front and back until they match.
It allows you to add line extensions neatly below the pigtails - Also if pigtails become worn they can be replaced.

Possibly the most important thing though, line breaks always seem to occur just below the pigtails on the current trust bar, the line seems to get weak there where it enters the sleeving. Possibly this is due to the line at that point being worked a lot more when untangling and running lines etc. I suspect that having a spliced loop onto a pigtail loop would avoid some of this though perhaps not.

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Re: Duotone 2021

Postby Leon van Bergen » Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:16 am

SolarSet wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 8:04 am
Kitemenn wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:35 am
SolarSet wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:11 am
front line auto untwist only in click bar?
Yes it needs the PU covered Lines to do that which is only available in CB
it seems that in price point of thrust bar cost of additional PU cover couldn't be allocated... it a bit shame as not everyone likes complicated click bar and would like to use thrust bar with autountwist...
Complicated? The Clickbar is the clean one of the two, that's what users like about it..

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Re: Duotone 2021

Postby evan » Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:18 am

ichabod wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:15 am


It allows you to add line extensions neatly below the pigtails - Also if pigtails become worn they can be replaced.

Possibly the most important thing though, line breaks always seem to occur just below the pigtails on the current trust bar, the line seems to get weak there where it enters the sleeving. Possibly this is due to the line at that point being worked a lot more when untangling and running lines etc. I suspect that having a spliced loop onto a pigtail loop would avoid some of this though perhaps not.
Duotone used sleeves up to 2016, since 2017 (before the name change) they already used splices + pigtails on all bars.

Curious to see if the new lines last any longer, quite a gamble to put only 1.3mm on the power lines instead of 1.7mm 500kg.
Leon van Bergen wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:16 am
Complicated? The Clickbar is the clean one of the two, that's what users like about it..
If they ditched all the legacy 5fth, wakestyle and high-V options it would be a much cleaner bar indeed.

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Re: Duotone 2021

Postby andikite » Fri Sep 11, 2020 12:57 pm

I have to thank to Duotone for the price of Clickbar 2021.

I read in different place due to new lines, it could cost 100/200€ more. Finally just 20 €!! Good for Duotone.

Yes I know, Clickbar is the most expensive bar in the market, but for me, it has no competitors.

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Re: Duotone 2021

Postby SolarSet » Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:42 pm

Leon van Bergen wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:16 am
SolarSet wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 8:04 am
Kitemenn wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:35 am


Yes it needs the PU covered Lines to do that which is only available in CB
it seems that in price point of thrust bar cost of additional PU cover couldn't be allocated... it a bit shame as not everyone likes complicated click bar and would like to use thrust bar with autountwist...
Complicated? The Clickbar is the clean one of the two, that's what users like about it..
Mechanism of folding lines inside bar is not simple, just because something looks less complicated on outside doesn't mean it's the same inside.
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