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Re: Duotone 2021

Postby wrogu » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:44 pm

nothing2seehere wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:11 pm
By all accounts (well interviews with Reece Myerscough) the problem with the prototype Aluula kites was that they turned too quickly so they were looking at how to slow down the smaller sizes.

That purple kite looks to me like new "kite range" colours rather than prototype colours. The prototypes I have seen on social media and at the beach have all been single colour fabric without sizing or branding.
It is prolly already a production kite. Tom had 2020 dice way before those hit the shelves.

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Re: Duotone 2021

Postby purdyd » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:12 pm

iriejohn wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:51 pm

You might just be right. :wink:

But in any case, Aluula is not Cuben.

For such a large kite my Flite 14.5 Aluula does turn pretty quickly.
Yes but cuben fiber like aluula has a high modulus of elasticity, aka very stiff.

I don’t care what it is made of, they have similar material properties in regards to stiffness.

The cuben fiber leading edge kites had small leading edges and reacted quickly sound familiar? But because the tips did not flex enough a powered kite would take a wide arc.

Yes I know what Reece Myers Cough said and he also said the kites have a lot more low end, and I don’t thing that is proving to be completely true either.

The 7m nemesis hp with cuben fiber was a pretty fast flying kite with a pretty thin leading edge and it would shoot you out of a cannon on a jump. The 10m nemesis hp had virtually unlimited top end.

Maybe the 14.5 is big enough that there is still plenty of torsional flex.

But I still haven’t seen how flex in the tips addressed with such a rigid material.

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Re: Duotone 2021

Postby iriejohn » Thu Jul 23, 2020 5:22 am

purdyd wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:12 pm
iriejohn wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:51 pm

You might just be right. :wink:

But in any case, Aluula is not Cuben.

For such a large kite my Flite 14.5 Aluula does turn pretty quickly.
But I still haven’t seen how flex in the tips addressed with such a rigid material.
Have you found any turn issues on the Aluula kite(s) you have been flying?
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Re: Duotone 2021

Postby sebi » Thu Jul 23, 2020 7:03 am

Turn issue is too fast turning 😀. Watch out.

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Re: Duotone 2021

Postby purdyd » Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:42 pm

iriejohn wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 5:22 am
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Have you found any turn issues on the Aluula kite(s) you have been flying
How many years have you flown cuben fiber leading edge kites? Did you ride variations of the same kite with different tips and flex?

Did you go through the hype of the last super stiff material that was going to change kiteboarding?

What has changed? Obviously light weight has become the latest arms race with exploring the low end side of the sport.

Kite designers keep talking about flex in the tips for turning, I wonder how that works with a stiff material. It is an honest question.

Is it because it is aluula woven? Shape? Have kite designers been wrong?

I haven’t flown an aluula kite but I held a roam prototype in black and it was rock solid. Of course that prototype seemed to be a copy of the Dacron roam which has a huge leading edge.

I found it interesting that duotone mentioned testing even stiffer material as well as aluula.

https://www.duotonesports.com/booklet/D ... ine/80-81/

Will we see a mix of materials in the leading edge?

It took a few years for best to figure out cuben fiber then they abandoned it, cost? Are we heading down that same road? Really expensive kites?

I would love to hear a Peter Stiewe formerly best now elevate, interview on this subject.

It could be an interesting year for kites from duotone at least material wise. There are certainly hints that things will be different this year.

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Re: Duotone 2021

Postby iriejohn » Thu Jul 23, 2020 7:12 pm

purdyd wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:42 pm
iriejohn wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 5:22 am
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Have you found any turn issues on the Aluula kite(s) you have been flying
How many years have you flown cuben fiber leading edge kites? ...
This is Aluula, not Cuben.

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Re: Duotone 2021

Postby andikite » Fri Jul 24, 2020 12:04 am

Team is working...


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Re: Duotone 2021

Postby lisaped » Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:09 pm

In DTK It is not aluula, it will be Penta TX

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Re: Duotone 2021

Postby Faxie » Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:27 pm

lisaped wrote:
Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:09 pm
In DTK It is not aluula, it will be Penta TX
Canopy? 5x5 ripstop?

I was joking about the 20x ripstop that was basically just heavier cloth, but little by little we're getting there lol.

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Re: Duotone 2021

Postby NorwayIsCold » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:49 am

Any info on twintip straps? Any updates there?


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