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Doutone Wam 2020 5.8" question

Postby gc » Thu Jun 11, 2020 11:23 am

Hello All, just got the WAM 2020 5.8" riding it with straps.
Missing responsiveness / snappy turns in small waves (up to a waist height) + a more loose feeling all together (tried with both light wind and strong wind - same results)
Board volume is 24.8 Liters, my height is 5'9" (180cm) and weight is 148 pounds (67 KG).
Would a smaller fin fix this? (currently comes with a M size fins)
If yes, to go for an S or XS size?
Other solutions?
Thank you, GC

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Re: Doutone WAM 2020 5.8" question

Postby riddim1 » Thu Jun 11, 2020 11:37 am

I think smaller fins would suit your weight and make the board feel looser. The Small size should be fine. If riding larger waves though your medium fins would provide more hold. I have observed that most strapped boards have the rear strap placed too far forward on the board. This position suits riding upwind but is not a suitable position when on a wave. For snappy top turns you need to plant your foot on the tail of the board (approximately over the rear fin box). The WAM is slightly narrower than other boards from different manufacturers and of similar length. Being narrower means it should go from rail to rail with ease. Hope this helps
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Re: Doutone Wam 2020 5.8" question

Postby adamj2281 » Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:42 pm

gc wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 11:23 am
Hello All, just got the WAM 2020 5.8" riding it with straps.
Missing responsiveness / snappy turns in small waves (up to a waist height) + a more loose feeling all together (tried with both light wind and strong wind - same results)
Board volume is 24.8 Liters, my height is 5'9" (180cm) and weight is 148 pounds (67 KG).
Would a smaller fin fix this? (currently comes with a M size fins)
If yes, to go for an S or XS size?
Other solutions?
Thank you, GC
Fins will help, but that's a lot of board for your size as well, especially in smaller waves.
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Re: Doutone Wam 2020 5.8" question

Postby TheRussian » Thu Jun 11, 2020 4:19 pm

adamj2281 wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:42 pm
Fins will help, but that's a lot of board for your size as well, especially in smaller waves.
Da Yoda wrote:
Mon Apr 02, 2018 8:34 pm
I'm about the same dimensions and my biggest kite surfboard is a 5'8. Definitely get the 5'8. You won't be sorry!
Just shows that you get a mixed bag of responses here!

But some boards, tend to feel larger than they are, my 5,9 S-Quad feels quite big, whereas a 5'11 Pro Session seemed to shrink on me !

The 5'8 should be fine for you, possibly try to move the footstraps around, possibly bringing them back could make the board feel more pivotal & could suit you more, without as much drive being required through the front foot.
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Re: Doutone Wam 2020 5.8" question

Postby Jerome Bonieux » Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:09 pm

gc wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 11:23 am
Hello All, just got the WAM 2020 5.8" riding it with straps.
Missing responsiveness / snappy turns in small waves (up to a waist height) + a more loose feeling all together (tried with both light wind and strong wind - same results)
Board volume is 24.8 Liters, my height is 5'9" (180cm) and weight is 148 pounds (67 KG).
Would a smaller fin fix this? (currently comes with a M size fins)
If yes, to go for an S or XS size?
Other solutions?
Thank you, GC
You should be on the 5'6''. I am a similar built to you and ride the 2020 5'5'' pro WAM.
In 2020 the boards are now shorter for the same volume as last year.
25L is too much in my opinion if you weight 67kg and ride strapped.
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Re: Doutone Wam 2020 5.8" question

Postby adamj2281 » Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:49 pm

Jerome Bonieux wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:09 pm
gc wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 11:23 am
Hello All, just got the WAM 2020 5.8" riding it with straps.
Missing responsiveness / snappy turns in small waves (up to a waist height) + a more loose feeling all together (tried with both light wind and strong wind - same results)
Board volume is 24.8 Liters, my height is 5'9" (180cm) and weight is 148 pounds (67 KG).
Would a smaller fin fix this? (currently comes with a M size fins)
If yes, to go for an S or XS size?
Other solutions?
Thank you, GC
You should be on the 5'6''. I am a similar built to you and ride the 2020 5'5'' pro WAM.
In 2020 the boards are now shorter for the same volume as last year.
25L is too much in my opinion if you weight 67kg and ride strapped.
How do you like that 5'5" WAM? I went to a larger board after having a 5'3" Spade (I'm 78 kg/172 lbs). I have a Whip CSC for smaller stuff, and a foil when it's light. Really only going to be riding it when the wind and/or waves are up. It's between that and maybe the Tomo Hydroshort, or just waiting around and buying something used. I just like less length if I can get away with it.
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Re: Doutone Wam 2020 5.8" question

Postby jonysan » Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:30 pm

Hi GC, I had the same with the Duotone Whip 5' 2 (which may as well be a 5 '8 with the nose chopped off!), which came with M size fins, the board seemed too 'directional', not 'loose'. I changed down to the S size fins, and immediately felt the board become more loose, easier to initiate carves. and fun to slide out the tail, on top turns. But, I think it lost a little bit of upwind ability, and Pop.
Maybe, you could try a smaller rear Fin in the Thruster set up, this might loosen the tail up, and still keep the leverage for upwind ability and grip? As others have said, it would help if the rear strap was further back. you could try it strapless to check ?
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Re: Doutone Wam 2020 5.8" question

Postby Jerome Bonieux » Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:34 pm

adamj2281 wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:49 pm
Jerome Bonieux wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:09 pm
gc wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 11:23 am
Hello All, just got the WAM 2020 5.8" riding it with straps.
Missing responsiveness / snappy turns in small waves (up to a waist height) + a more loose feeling all together (tried with both light wind and strong wind - same results)
Board volume is 24.8 Liters, my height is 5'9" (180cm) and weight is 148 pounds (67 KG).
Would a smaller fin fix this? (currently comes with a M size fins)
If yes, to go for an S or XS size?
Other solutions?
Thank you, GC
You should be on the 5'6''. I am a similar built to you and ride the 2020 5'5'' pro WAM.
In 2020 the boards are now shorter for the same volume as last year.
25L is too much in my opinion if you weight 67kg and ride strapped.
How do you like that 5'5" WAM? I went to a larger board after having a 5'3" Spade (I'm 78 kg/172 lbs). I have a Whip CSC for smaller stuff, and a foil when it's light. Really only going to be riding it when the wind and/or waves are up. It's between that and maybe the Tomo Hydroshort, or just waiting around and buying something used. I just like less length if I can get away with it.
I love the 5'5" pro Wam! On a good day at Oneye I would still pick the Pro Session over it though :thumb:
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Re: Doutone Wam 2020 5.8" question

Postby gc » Fri Jun 12, 2020 4:20 am

Jerome Bonieux wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:09 pm
gc wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 11:23 am
Hello All, just got the WAM 2020 5.8" riding it with straps.
Missing responsiveness / snappy turns in small waves (up to a waist height) + a more loose feeling all together (tried with both light wind and strong wind - same results)
Board volume is 24.8 Liters, my height is 5'9" (180cm) and weight is 148 pounds (67 KG).
Would a smaller fin fix this? (currently comes with a M size fins)
If yes, to go for an S or XS size?
Other solutions?
Thank you, GC
You should be on the 5'6''. I am a similar built to you and ride the 2020 5'5'' pro WAM.
In 2020 the boards are now shorter for the same volume as last year.
25L is too much in my opinion if you weight 67kg and ride strapped.
Thank you Jerome, will the 5.6" still allow me to ride the wave with little kite power OR does it need a lot of kite power?
Is it similar to the WAM 5.8" 2019 model or did it get more "surf" feeling?

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Re: Doutone Wam 2020 5.8" question

Postby purdyd » Fri Jun 12, 2020 2:01 pm

gc wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 11:23 am
Hello All, just got the WAM 2020 5.8" riding it with straps.
Missing responsiveness / snappy turns in small waves (up to a waist height) + a more loose feeling all together (tried with both light wind and strong wind - same results)
Board volume is 24.8 Liters, my height is 5'9" (180cm) and weight is 148 pounds (67 KG).
Would a smaller fin fix this? (currently comes with a M size fins)
If yes, to go for an S or XS size?
Other solutions?
Thank you, GC
I wonder what you are comparing the wam to?

I’d say smaller fins will make it looser.

Shorter will make it snappier.

Something like the pro whip or pro fish.

I’d say for your weight the 5’i” WAM seems big but it depends on your riding style, waves, and wind.


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