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Postby B19 ELS » Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:19 pm
Ride Engine harness: is there much difference in the real world use between them or is the carbon one just more as it’s carbon and you pay to say you have the best.
Is the prime one just as good but cheaper?
Anyone have real beach feedback?
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Postby Da Yoda » Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:59 pm
B19 ELS wrote:
Ride Engine harness: is there much difference in the real world use between them or is the carbon one just more as it’s carbon and you pay to say you have the best.
Is the prime one just as good but cheaper?
Anyone have real beach feedback?
Elliot
It's a difference in the flex profile caused by the materials. The Elite Carbon harness is noticeably stiffer when it's twisted (torsional stiffness) and pinched.
Same goes for Mystic's Majestic X vs Majestic and Ion's Riot CS vs Riot CURV (or Apex CURV vs Apex).
Being "just as good" is a manor of taste. The shape (fit) of the two RE harnesses are identical, so it's personal preference on the amount of support one wants or needs. Same goes for the Mystic and Ion.
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Postby zlatko23 » Tue Jun 23, 2020 6:40 am
I second Da Yoda's opinion - the only difference is flex, I doubt that there is even a weight difference. I personally use Elite, but I have never tried the Prime. I guess the difference in stiffness will be even less noticeable for lighter riders.
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Postby Onda » Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:24 pm
If the prime model is even heavier than the carbon/elite model, I´d choose the elite for this reason alone.
I swapped my old 2016 carbon model with the current 2020 carbon model, same size. The weight of the 2020 model is 900 grams higher! Insane! It feels like a tank (weight-wise) compared to the 2016.
Will keep the old thing for air travelling. Where every kg counts.
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Postby Havre » Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:29 pm
I went from the regular Majestic to the X. The X is nicer, but not by much. I never had any issues with the old one so even if the pressure is distributed a bit more on the X it was never a real problem with the old.
I probably wouldn't have "upgraded" in hindsight, but if I didn't have a harness and was having to buy one I would have gone with the X (and the stealth bar). I do prefer it, but maybe not with as much as I thought I would.
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Postby zlatko23 » Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:32 pm
@Onda - are you serious?! 900gr is quite a hefty difference! Are the spreader bars the same? Because the spreader bar can have a major effect. Can you weigh the 2 harness without spreader bars?
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Postby soeren76 » Tue Jun 23, 2020 1:35 pm
I know that some riders go away from the very stiff ones after the hsve cracked a few ribs. Remember stiffer isn't always better.
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Postby windmaker » Tue Jun 23, 2020 7:54 pm
soeren76 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2020 1:35 pm
I know that some riders go away from the very stiff ones after the hsve cracked a few ribs. Remember stiffer isn't always better.
...and carbon sells.
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Postby Robsw6 » Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:13 pm
Opposite for me... my broken rib feels better in carbon compared to a softer shell.
Ps i broke it in a softer shell.
Seems the carbon shell keeps the spreader in place.
But i moved off the Ride engine after the stitching started making a “ripping” sound when boosting. Lovely harness, but not heavy duty enough for me.
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Postby Diego Gama » Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:11 am
I thinkk is more about your preference and your riding style. I heard from big air guys that ride engine elite carbon is better than the others. I usually ride with the Apex Duotone edition and I have the hybrid hook, that either you can use the hookk or the rope, but this is because of my riding style... When the wind is blowing strong I go for a big air, but I also likke waves, foiling and old school. For sure Ride engine fits likke a glove on your waist
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