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Re: Core Sensor 3 Pro

Postby PullStrings » Sat Jul 25, 2020 10:25 pm

Kitetwin-1 wrote:
Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:22 pm
high V bar is not an option for me. I self land 90% of the time.

Explain why it would not work for you

Its not that high of a V at 4.5 meter
It is a piece of cake to go up the thick lines to the V and pull top line to land in light to medium winds
Stay hooked in and let the bar drop to near your knees
And if wind is cranking it is a piece of cake to walk up the lines past the V all the way to bridle to land it LE down
Self land here 98% with any kind of bars over 170 days a year
If someone i know or trust on beach offers to grab LE then it is the 2% remaining

Other bars here that can be self landed no problem
Flysurfer Connect bar V is 7 meters
Original 5th element North bar V at 12.5 meters

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Re: Core Sensor 3 Pro

Postby Kitetwin-1 » Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:44 am

High V is not the best for self landing, a low V is the only choice for me. I have had high V bars but the added time and effort to reach the V to grab a high flying line for self landing is not optimal. Shit happens in that one or two seconds.

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Re: Core Sensor 3 Pro

Postby deniska » Sun Jul 26, 2020 3:56 am

Kitetwin-1 wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:44 am
High V is not the best for self landing, a low V is the only choice for me. I have had high V bars but the added time and effort to reach the V to grab a high flying line for self landing is not optimal. Shit happens in that one or two seconds.
there is that overpowered scenario when you do not what to grab a center line with your bare hand.. you either tether land or flag the kite..
but if it's not that, there is very little difference in landing core Y vs any low V..

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Re: Core Sensor 3 Pro

Postby kitelife » Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:33 am

deniska wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 3:56 am
there is that overpowered scenario when you do not what to grab a center line with your bare hand.. you either tether land or flag the kite..
but if it's not that, there is very little difference in landing core Y vs any low V..
Only difference is know which side your flag line is on when self landing a high V. Pull the flag line and it Will self land just like a low V. None of this works for either type when Over 20kts - good chance the kite will flip over unless in a wind shadow. Agree with using a tether.

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Re: Core Sensor 3 Pro

Postby Kitetwin-1 » Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:19 pm

Teather launch/landings are not an option due to tight launch/landing areas. I’m sure the bar is awesome but the ability to not self land as easily as a low V is a problem for me.

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Re: Core Sensor 3 Pro

Postby PullStrings » Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:57 pm

Kitetwin-1 wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:44 am
High V is not the best for self landing, a low V is the only choice for me. I have had high V bars but the added time and effort to reach the V to grab a high flying line for self landing is not optimal. Shit happens in that one or two seconds.
OK
I am sure you self launch also and double check everything
In other words you take the time not to mess up
It is the same with self landing because you are in charge
There is no rush unless of course your life is in danger because you kept riding with squall approaching
To go up to the V of a Core bar takes 4 seconds
Plus i believe that the fact that the front line you will pull is shorter and at a more acute angle the LE resting on one wingtip will drop to the beach better
Landing is a controlled deliberate act that does not have to be rushed at all
How often do you practice taking your time and walking the lines all the way up to the kite ?
Do it in the highest wind possible for your kite size
If shit like you say is about to happen you should figure out why and avoid the situation in the future
Walking up the lines of any bars with an 7 meter in 35 knots is not that difficult with practice
Because in that wind you cannot just pull a top line and should try avoiding using the QR
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Re: Core Sensor 3 Pro

Postby Kitetwin-1 » Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:11 pm

I seem to have high jacked the thread somewhat. Pull strings you have many thoughtful comments. Landing a low and high v are somewhat different, think I’ll leave it at that.

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Re: Core Sensor 3 Pro

Postby PullStrings » Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:48 pm

Yes we went sideways a bit
I respect how you land
Works for you and that's great
Line walking is what i do since 1999 if the wind is too much just to pull the upper line on any V heights bars

The OP's beef was the price and high V
Yes price is on high side
But the V is really not

Some people ( few ) have a bar & lines staying always attached to each kite they have
Some people own 8 kite sizes
I'm one of those
But i would pay $$$ if it was really what i wanted
Three of my bars were brand new at one point and are on my high wind kites
The others were bought used and are on medium to light wind kites
Like it that way not to detach and re-attach
:wink: I've never forgot my bar/lines on the beach after a late session when packing !!
Every kite size sizes are already tuned for each bars so it minimizes errors at launch where most of the dangers lurk
The smaller size kites for high dangerous wind see less use and therefore the bar & lines are in great conditions / safer


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