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best line replacement clickbar. infexion or kiteboarding lines?

Postby roggema » Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:13 pm

hi all,

I'm seeing some wear on my clickbar, and as I've read it's better to upgrade.
could you please help me pointing out what's the best lines replacement?

I'm seeing good reviews about infexion SK99.
type 300 or Type 500 (or is this only colour difference?)
and then there's kiteboardinglines.com. also SK99

infexion however has the internal leader lines aswell (kiteboardinglines.com doesn't).

kind regards,
Maxime

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Re: best line replacement clickbar. infexion or kiteboarding lines?

Postby Faxie » Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:23 pm

Can't go wrong with Infexion really. 300 and 500 are the same lines, but different strength.
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Re: best line replacement clickbar. infexion or kiteboarding lines?

Postby wrogu » Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:31 pm

Thre are rumors about new duotone lines this year.

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Re: best line replacement clickbar. infexion or kiteboarding lines?

Postby Kitemenn » Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:34 pm

Yes as Faxie is mentioning 300/500 are the strengths in KG in other words 300 lines should be able to take 300kg before it should break.

One note...Infexion has a 3 week delay on backorders....waiting for my replacements too! But very good experience with Infexion so far!

The other lines look good too and SK99 is the standard now in my view...so it will be an upgrade comparing to your current lines anyway

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Re: best line replacement clickbar. infexion or kiteboarding lines?

Postby Kitemenn » Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:13 pm

wrogu wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:31 pm
Thre are rumors about new duotone lines this year.
Don't hold your breath...also heard they are really pricy! As Faxie says...you can't go wrong with Infexion just need to have some patience as there is some backlog/holidays

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Re: best line replacement clickbar. infexion or kiteboarding lines?

Postby apollo4000 » Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:59 pm

Just curious, I also have an old clickbar to upgrade.
How do plan to complete the upgrade?
Will you do it yourself with the raw lines or do you get a ready made clickbar set?
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Re: best line replacement clickbar. infexion or kiteboarding lines?

Postby Kitemenn » Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:02 pm

apollo4000 wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:59 pm
Just curious, I also have an old clickbar to upgrade.
How do plan to complete the upgrade?
Will you do it yourself with the raw lines or do you get a ready made clickbar set?
Cheers
It's just a matter of disconnecting your current lines and replace them with the new ones. On the Duotone site you can find all the different lines needed for your clickbar, just check which ones are worn and replace those, it will most likely be your backlines and upper front lines, but it would be good to check your innerlines too.

you can often also send your bar in and they will put the lines on it for you
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Re: best line replacement clickbar. infexion or kiteboarding lines?

Postby wrogu » Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:03 pm

Kitemenn wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:13 pm
wrogu wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:31 pm
Thre are rumors about new duotone lines this year.
Don't hold your breath...also heard they are really pricy! As Faxie says...you can't go wrong with Infexion just need to have some patience as there is some backlog/holidays
Someone mentioned 1K AUD, which would be not that bad, given current price of the bar.

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Re: best line replacement clickbar. infexion or kiteboarding lines?

Postby Onda » Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:05 pm

SK99 is a specific generation of Dyneema material made by Liros (the manufacturer of the lines). SK99 is the latest and highest "strength" Dyneema type currently.
In my view, SK99 is not necessarily the best recommendation for kite lines in general. It is slightly stronger by breaking strength than the older Dyneema types. But is also has a higher shrinkage over time. Which is really annoying when it comes to kitesurf lines.
I´d choose e.g. SK78 material. Only a little bit weaker (at same diameter), but shrinks less than SK99.
SK99 might make sense for race foiler who want to reduce the drag of the lines (can be chosen slightly thinner at same breaking load).

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Re: best line replacement clickbar. infexion or kiteboarding lines?

Postby Faxie » Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:22 pm

Onda wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:05 pm
SK99 is a specific generation of Dyneema material made by Liros (the manufacturer of the lines). SK99 is the latest and highest "strength" Dyneema type currently.
In my view, SK99 is not necessarily the best recommendation for kite lines in general. It is slightly stronger by breaking strength than the older Dyneema types. But is also has a higher shrinkage over time. Which is really annoying when it comes to kitesurf lines.
I´d choose e.g. SK78 material. Only a little bit weaker (at same diameter), but shrinks less than SK99.
SK99 might make sense for race foiler who want to reduce the drag of the lines (can be chosen slightly thinner at same breaking load).
I don't think Liros makes the material, they just weave the lines (like all line manufacturers)?

The shrinkage you mention I've never noticed. Riding with plenty of power most of the time, medium bar pressure kites, and for over 100 sessions with the same lines, no adjustments needed on the lines. I do replace them after a year most of the time, not due to damage (though there is some fraying at the crossing point, as to be expected) but just in case.

I think the problem you noticed is due to the fact that the same strength lines will be thinner with SK99, so weave opening and dirt getting in will shrink the lines relatively more.


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