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Re: best line replacement clickbar. infexion or kiteboarding lines?

Postby purdyd » Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:10 am

My experience is the liros sk99 does not shrink much. It is a fairly tight weave.

I think the internal lines on the bar are very good quality.

I just received a set from kiteboardinglones.com.

I will see how they do.

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Re: best line replacement clickbar. infexion or kiteboarding lines?

Postby nixmatters » Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:11 am

Faxie wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:23 pm
Can't go wrong with Infexion really. 300 and 500 are the same lines, but different strength.
Second that, you can't go wrong with these lines. Different strength and different thickness too.
SK99-300 has a breaking load of 300-320 kg and is 1.3mm thin. Exactly what's needed for low drag steering lines, also front racing lines,
SK99-500 line has double the breaking load, i.e. above 600kg and is ~1.8mm thick. Strong enough to withstand the heaviest loads even after some wear.

The Liros SK99 DC-401 I have tested was 1,55mm, with effective breaking load of ~440kg. This is for me a strange line that has the slightly lower stretch of SK99, but a breaking strength typical for SK75 and not SK99. The abrasion resistance (fraying) was noticeably lower than several other lines I've tested together with it.
They also have 1,3mm/300kg and 2mm/700kg SK99 lines, but I havent tested these yet.
Faxie wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:22 pm
I don't think Liros makes the material, they just weave the lines (like all line manufacturers)?
Absolutely correct. DSM N.V. https://www.dsm.com/dyneema/en_GB/our-p ... fiber.html makes the raw material yarn and owns the trademarks Dyneema, SK75, SK99.
4 main line manufacturers are braiding, coating and pre-stretching our lines.

As regards shrinkage - this is mostly determined by the braid construction/tightness, coating and pre-stretching. The yarn type (SK75/78/99) plays a very little role here.

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Re: best line replacement clickbar. infexion or kiteboarding lines?

Postby Kitemenn » Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:20 am

wrogu wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:03 pm
Kitemenn wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:13 pm
wrogu wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:31 pm
Thre are rumors about new duotone lines this year.
Don't hold your breath...also heard they are really pricy! As Faxie says...you can't go wrong with Infexion just need to have some patience as there is some backlog/holidays
Someone mentioned 1K AUD, which would be not that bad, given current price of the bar.
I saw the same :lol: only didnt notice they were talking Australian Dollar...that would be OK indeed but let's first see what prices they will come with in EU...never waist a good crisis

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Re: best line replacement clickbar. infexion or kiteboarding lines?

Postby wrogu » Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:28 am

Kitemenn wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:20 am
wrogu wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:03 pm
Kitemenn wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:13 pm


Don't hold your breath...also heard they are really pricy! As Faxie says...you can't go wrong with Infexion just need to have some patience as there is some backlog/holidays
Someone mentioned 1K AUD, which would be not that bad, given current price of the bar.
I saw the same :lol: only didnt notice they were talking Australian Dollar...that would be OK indeed but let's first see what prices they will come with in EU...never waist a good crisis
Truth to be told I assumed that 1k was in AUD, casue the poster is from AU :) And current click is around 900 AUD or something.

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Re: best line replacement clickbar. infexion or kiteboarding lines?

Postby nixmatters » Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:50 am

wrogu wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:31 pm
Thre are rumors about new duotone lines this year.
I was told they are bringing SK99 with same monofilament tracer they are having now. Can't imagine them keeping the same price. Let's see.

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Re: best line replacement clickbar. infexion or kiteboarding lines?

Postby wrogu » Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:06 am

nixmatters wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:50 am
wrogu wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:31 pm
Thre are rumors about new duotone lines this year.
I was told they are bringing SK99 with same monofilament tracer they are having now. Can't imagine them keeping the same price. Let's see.
That would be cool. 12 or 8 braid? I guess current 'problems' with DT lines was the fact that they used 8 braid. Which gets loose after some time.
On the other hand I have never had any failuers with current DT lines.

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Re: best line replacement clickbar. infexion or kiteboarding lines?

Postby nixmatters » Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:54 am

wrogu wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:06 am
nixmatters wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:50 am
wrogu wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:31 pm
Thre are rumors about new duotone lines this year.
I was told they are bringing SK99 with same monofilament tracer they are having now. Can't imagine them keeping the same price. Let's see.
That would be cool. 12 or 8 braid? I guess current 'problems' with DT lines was the fact that they used 8 braid. Which gets loose after some time.
On the other hand I have never had any failuers with current DT lines.
12. I guess they are based on Maui FL-389 with an added tracer.

Current ones get loose faster because there is less coating. That's why the monofilament is needed - to provide some stiffness.
Curios to see the new lines - especially if the monofilament is there for the same function or just for keeping the corporate identity

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Re: best line replacement clickbar. infexion or kiteboarding lines?

Postby wrogu » Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:27 am

nixmatters wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:54 am
wrogu wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:06 am
nixmatters wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:50 am


I was told they are bringing SK99 with same monofilament tracer they are having now. Can't imagine them keeping the same price. Let's see.
That would be cool. 12 or 8 braid? I guess current 'problems' with DT lines was the fact that they used 8 braid. Which gets loose after some time.
On the other hand I have never had any failuers with current DT lines.
12. I guess they are based on Maui FL-389 with an added tracer.

Current ones get loose faster because there is less coating. That's why the monofilament is needed - to provide some stiffness.
Curios to see the new lines - especially if the monofilament is there for the same function or just for keeping the corporate identity
Sounds cool as it is their top of the line kite line :D

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Re: best line replacement clickbar. infexion or kiteboarding lines?

Postby iriejohn » Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:39 am

purdyd wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:10 am
My experience is the liros sk99 does not shrink much. It is a fairly tight weave.
My Ozone SK99 lines haven't shrunk much.

I don't know who manufactures SK99 line for Ozone.
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Re: best line replacement clickbar. infexion or kiteboarding lines?

Postby purdyd » Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:17 pm

nixmatters wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:54 am
wrogu wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:06 am
nixmatters wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:50 am


I was told they are bringing SK99 with same monofilament tracer they are having now. Can't imagine them keeping the same price. Let's see.
That would be cool. 12 or 8 braid? I guess current 'problems' with DT lines was the fact that they used 8 braid. Which gets loose after some time.
On the other hand I have never had any failuers with current DT lines.
12. I guess they are based on Maui FL-389 with an added tracer.

Current ones get loose faster because there is less coating. That's why the monofilament is needed - to provide some stiffness.
Curios to see the new lines - especially if the monofilament is there for the same function or just for keeping the corporate identity
I am not a fan of the trace technology, it seems to have a different stretch characteristic and just loosens the weave.

I think the whole trace keeps the lines from kinking and makes them last longer is bull.

I’d rather have color coded lines.

I notice fl10 doesn’t seem to exist anymore

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