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Re: Foreigners going to Brasil please read

Postby Bille » Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:35 pm

Mossy 757 wrote:
Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:12 pm
Toby wrote:
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But those country will be more immune like the European countries in the near future.

Please keep in mind that this statement is pure speculation and not confirmed by any known science or medical evidence. It seems like an intuitively true thing to say, but please be cautious repeating this statement because it isn't verified with medical evidence or cases specific to COVID. It's entirely possible that exposure to COVID does not trigger a durable immune reaction and that this disease is bad for everyone every time they catch it. That's true with many other diseases, not all pathogens generate a durable and safe herd immunity in humans given sufficient time...some just continue to kill us no matter what.
@ Mossy and Toby

I should be able to tell you first hand , in the near future ; if immunity
is real . I just got over a a very Nasty case of corona , that nearly took
me out, (and i was quite careful to not get it, before-hand) .
SO
If the immunity thing , really is real ; i shouldn't get it again ?
I'll get back to ya , in several months ; and let you know !

Bille

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Re: Foreigners going to Brasil please read

Postby PrfctChaos » Wed Sep 02, 2020 1:28 am

BWD wrote:
Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:22 pm
omg wrote:
Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:33 pm
Toby wrote:
Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:39 am
...But those country will be more immune like the European countries in the near future.
Where does it state that people will become immune once they have had covid? To my mind, it's very low % who become immune, hence mass infection/immunity won't be a solution?!?
It is a coronavirus. genetic drift and mutations will inevitably make it more common and more innocuous over time, especially in Brazil, where the infection rate is higher.
Weakening of the virus AND herd immunity will end the virus panic.
Except for some individuals who have a panic disorder.
And politicians - they will probably never get better.
The virus may stick around but the hype and (increasingly rare) fatalities will fade.
Have you received your honorary medical doctorate yet, or still waiting for medical establishment to catch up to your level?

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Re: Foreigners going to Brasil please read

Postby Toby » Wed Sep 02, 2020 2:47 am

For a Corona death the Hospital in Brazil gets 14.000 R, for a normal death nothing.

Go figure

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Re: Foreigners going to Brasil please read

Postby lobodomar » Wed Sep 02, 2020 8:02 am

You should be able to look at the bright side. In Brazil deaths by cancer, heart disease, stroke, diabetes, dementia, tuberculosis, auto-immune diseases etc have decreased significantly this year, specially in the states where governors are opposed to the president.

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Re: Foreigners going to Brasil please read

Postby Toby » Wed Sep 02, 2020 9:43 am

Because they all are now diagnosed Covid deaths...the reason I stated before.

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Re: Foreigners going to Brasil please read

Postby Havre » Wed Sep 02, 2020 9:53 am

Toby wrote:
Wed Sep 02, 2020 2:47 am
For a Corona death the Hospital in Brazil gets 14.000 R, for a normal death nothing.

Go figure
Interesting. Any sources on this? In Portuguese is fine.

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Re: Foreigners going to Brasil please read

Postby Toby » Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:43 am

google it. a friend in Sao Paulo told me...big discussions about it currently he said

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Re: Foreigners going to Brasil please read

Postby Cefirmeza » Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:56 am

Toby wrote:
Wed Sep 02, 2020 2:47 am
For a Corona death the Hospital in Brazil gets 14.000 R, for a normal death nothing.

Go figure
https://politica.estadao.com.br/blogs/e ... -covid-19/

Falso = fake

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Re: Foreigners going to Brasil please read

Postby Toby » Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:02 am

masks help
masks don't help

said by the same people.

What's truth nowadays?

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Re: Foreigners going to Brasil please read

Postby Pemba » Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:30 am

Bille wrote:
Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:35 pm
Mossy 757 wrote:
Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:12 pm
Toby wrote:
Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:39 am


But those country will be more immune like the European countries in the near future.

Please keep in mind that this statement is pure speculation and not confirmed by any known science or medical evidence. It seems like an intuitively true thing to say, but please be cautious repeating this statement because it isn't verified with medical evidence or cases specific to COVID. It's entirely possible that exposure to COVID does not trigger a durable immune reaction and that this disease is bad for everyone every time they catch it. That's true with many other diseases, not all pathogens generate a durable and safe herd immunity in humans given sufficient time...some just continue to kill us no matter what.
@ Mossy and Toby

I should be able to tell you first hand , in the near future ; if immunity
is real . I just got over a a very Nasty case of corona , that nearly took
me out, (and i was quite careful to not get it, before-hand) .
SO
If the immunity thing , really is real ; i shouldn't get it again ?
I'll get back to ya , in several months ; and let you know !

Bille

Wow Bille, I remember you stating earlier that you considered yourself to be in the high risk group. That must have been quite scary. In any case, it seems reasonable to suppose that even if you get it again, the symptoms should be less if there at all. I'd be interested to know what symptoms remain after a month or two.

I think this whole thing is going to be like normal flu, in the sense that people in the developed world will be expected to get regular vaccinations for it just like for flue. Some people will still get it. Some will die. And there will be some more permanent changes, like more people working from home. But the hype will disappear, in fact is doing so already. BUT I'm saying that without any medical background and as one of the lucky ones, I don't even know of anybody that has caught it. And that will influence my opinion/feelings about it.


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