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Re: Foreigners going to Brasil please read

Postby Havre » Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:44 pm



If anyone are interested in death rates.
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Re: Foreigners going to Brasil please read

Postby alunj » Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:19 am

Havre wrote:

If anyone are interested in death rates.
Been following this guys updates since the start
Generally very useful info and well researched .

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Re: Foreigners going to Brasil please read

Postby Havre » Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:07 am

alunj wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:19 am
Been following this guys updates since the start
Generally very useful info and well researched .
Absolutely. I don't agree with him on everything, but his humble data-driven approach is exactly what I am asking for. Then you can have a reasonable discussion about policies without it getting so emotional as it now is in many countries (I would argue most - that I follow - Sweden being the exception where scientists are driving policy more than politicians). As he also points out we don't know why things have changed, but the data show they have - so why don't we update our understanding accordingly? And if it changes again we do another update. That is for me the pragmatic and rational way of dealing with this - not being afraid of everything that might or might not happen.

His video on Vitamin D from the other day is also very interesting. For those that would like to "protect" themselves - I would recommend making sure to have sufficient level of Vitamin D.

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Re: Foreigners going to Brasil please read

Postby Bille » Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:45 pm

Havre wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:07 am
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His video on Vitamin D from the other day is also very interesting. For those that would like to "protect" themselves - I would recommend making sure to have sufficient level of Vitamin D.
Absolutely !! :thumb:

And Ya need Zinc with that. I started taking 2000iu of D, and zinc, when this corona
thing first started ; i got a bad case of it, but Lived through it. Correlation ?
Maybe , maybe not !
I also took vitamin C, and 81mg baby aspirin ; but i always did that.

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Re: Foreigners going to Brasil please read

Postby Toby » Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:52 am

Finally a reply about the topic:

I just got news from friends and had it confirmed from someone at immigration at the Fortaleza airport:

The normal 90 days rule for tourists has been frozen ... This means you can now stay longer than 90 days without a visa.
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Re: Foreigners going to Brasil please read

Postby Havre » Thu Sep 17, 2020 2:46 pm

12 months from now - Brazil here we come!

How is the wind down south during January/February?

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Re: Foreigners going to Brasil please read

Postby Toby » Thu Sep 17, 2020 2:53 pm

Should be good, I hear it’s main season for Rio etc, also being summer then.

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Re: Foreigners going to Brasil please read

Postby TomW » Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:21 pm

Back to Brazil topic.
I'm in Sweden. The foreign office " recommends not to travel for tourist or non- essential reasons" until nov 15. They can extend this at any time.
This means my national health insurance will not cover me, as it normally would. Transport back to Sweden is not covered under health insurance and the embassy will not provide any assistance.
Thats a show stopper.

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Re: Foreigners going to Brasil please read

Postby Toby » Fri Sep 18, 2020 12:41 am

Just got confirmed, that you don’t even need to extend your stay after 90 days.

Stay as long as you want. Until further notice.

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Re: Foreigners going to Brasil please read

Postby omg » Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:33 am

From Bloomberg: Global coronavirus cases topped 30 million, with infections showing no signs of slowing more than six months after the pandemic was declared. The global death toll is approaching 1 million, with the U.S. topping the list with almost 200,000 fatalities. Many health experts believe the actual number of cases and deaths is much higher than what’s been reported. The virus is spreading at a rate of 1 million cases every four or five days. From France to South Korea, former hotspots that had brought the virus under control are fighting fresh outbreaks, complicating efforts to reopen economies. In other worrying news, a study published in the Journal of the American Medical Association found that 11 of 19 volunteers who had developed antibodies as of April seem to have lost them only two months later.

But yeah, no worries (sarcarsm).

And about Sweden's "scientific" approach by Tegnell:
Sweden's Tegnell blames low influenza rates for corona deaths in Sweden which didn't do much when Corona hit (if you compare to other Nordic countries).
Norway's state epidemiologist has rejected a claim from his Swedish counterpart that Sweden's much higher death rate from coronavirus can be attributed to having milder recent flu seasons.
In an interview published in Sweden's Dagens Nyheter newspaper on Thursday, the country's state epidemiologist Anders Tegnell proposed a new theory to explain his country's high death toll, pointing to the mild flu seasons the country had seen in recent years.
"The new report shows that there is a strong connection between a low excess mortality rate from the flu and high excess mortality from Covid-19, and vice versa," Tegnell said.
"What people are now seeing is that countries which have a rather low death rate from flu over the past two to three years have a very high excess mortality from Covid-19, while those that have had a high flu death rate, like Norway, over the past two winters, have a low Covid death rate."
When contacted by The Local, Tegnell's Norwegian counterpart Frode Forland questioned the claim that Norway had in fact suffered more severe flu seasons in recent years.
"There was a rather mild season last year in both Norway and in Sweden," Frode Forland told The Local.


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