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Inside leading edge blowout: how is it possible?

Postby sarc » Fri Sep 04, 2020 5:39 pm

Today perfect day 22kn I was on my late 2017 North Rebel 9m, 2 seconds after landing a nice big jump the leading edge blew out and deflated. Luckily I clamped all struts and was able to body drag back to shore with a completely flat leading edge! Kite flew like a pig of course but it stayed in the air.

The blowout is INSIDE the leading edge, next to reinforcement point near to the 2nd strut. This part just cannot contact the ground, so ground handling damage is out of the question! And I take good care of my gear.

I'd like to know if anyone has a guess of how it could happen and can I expect it to happen again near another strut? maybe a design fault - the leading edge of 2017 rebel is very light, just dacron it does nor have inner coating like the earlier models. Any advice on how to prevent?

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Re: Inside leading edge blowout: how is it possible?

Postby sarc » Fri Sep 04, 2020 5:48 pm

Holy cow design fault... the other side is also ripped and was about to blow out too!! ##%@*@%*##

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Re: Inside leading edge blowout: how is it possible?

Postby GregK » Fri Sep 04, 2020 6:35 pm

Fretting wear. Looks like the webbing inside the canopy that distributes the front line load is in contact and rubbing against the LE pocket.

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Re: Inside leading edge blowout: how is it possible?

Postby Pierrot » Fri Sep 04, 2020 6:50 pm

Interesting... seems the LE is worn out by the canopy reinforcement, likely flapping when the kite is on the beach.

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Re: Inside leading edge blowout: how is it possible?

Postby sarc » Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:13 am

No I take good care of my gear and don't let it flap out in the beach... the seams must be rubbing the LE during flight! I'll need to put in a patch. The LE dacron is really too thin / weak!

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Re: Inside leading edge blowout: how is it possible?

Postby apollo4000 » Sat Sep 05, 2020 8:13 am

GregK wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 6:35 pm
Fretting wear. Looks like the webbing inside the canopy that distributes the front line load is in contact and rubbing against the LE pocket.
Interesting and quite aggressive in the second photo. Not withstanding the OP care regime, what’s the most common cause and how to avoid.

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Re: Inside leading edge blowout: how is it possible?

Postby nixmatters » Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:14 pm

There must be a reason for introducing a bridle in 2018 and the above is a solid one!
From 3 to 12 attachment points... Uh!
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Re: Inside leading edge blowout: how is it possible?

Postby nothing2seehere » Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:02 am

This is the area that Anton talks about in his video 'Learning to fly'.

As I remember it, when you power the kite aggressively you can make the wingtips wiggle aggressively back and forth and eventually it ruptures. In his video he showed a different brand of kite though. Out of interest what pressure do you pump your kite up to and what conditions do you fly in (warm air/cold air)? I'm trying to remember but I think he suggested that under inflation might accentuate the problem.

Edit: His material is copywrited so I can't share the video clip directly.

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Re: Inside leading edge blowout: how is it possible?

Postby sarc » Mon Sep 07, 2020 12:27 pm

Yes I'm 92kg and I ride aggressively, moving the kite a lot.
I pump around 7 psi, never more than 8 (all Rebels I have 2017 - 2012 buckle at lower pressure during kiteloops)

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Re: Inside leading edge blowout: how is it possible?

Postby edt » Mon Sep 07, 2020 3:41 pm

Even if you leave it flapping every now and then it shouldn't do this it should just wear evenly. However.... It is 3 years old and if you kite every day can't expect a kite any kite to last that long. If you kite once a month then it's an unacceptable design flaw. I've had kites with design flaws they suck. One of the worst things is you always blame yourself first before you blame the kite.


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