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Re: Apple Watch Apps compared for Freeriding

Postby Kitemenn » Fri Feb 05, 2021 2:59 pm

aleks wrote:
Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:19 pm
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Hi Guys, I started working on a dedicated Kiteboarding app for Apple Watch. You might have seen my Woo Screen Android Wear OS app and WOO app for Garmin watches. Now it is time for Apple Watch :D

There will be a completely new version of WOO Apple Watch app coming out soon - lots of improvements there for WOO owners, hopefully it will address most of your problems and you won't need to use a separate apps for tracking 8) . Stay tunned on that!

However, I also want to create an app for non-WOO users, so I'd love to get some feedback on what metrics you find important during and after the session. Here is what I have so far.

Display on the watch during the session:

- Current speed
- Max speed
- Max last 30 sec speed (for short speed runs and jump take off speed)
- Session duration
- Distance
- Heart rate ?
- Calories ?
- ?

After session review and functionality:

- GPS speed colored tracks
- Max speed
- Duration
- Distance
- Social sharing option
- Apple Fitness app session logging
- Heart rate graph ?
- Calories ?
- ?

Also, there will be some improvements in on-water usability (water locking, navigation options without touch screen). Give me your wish list in that area too!

Please let me know if you have any other recomendations. Thanks :thumb: !
Also on the list for the new Apple Watch app:

- VMG ?
- Polar plot ?
- Minimum speed for last 15 sec

Let me know guys if you are happy with the apps that you currently use. I think there is a lot of space for improvement, and not only in data, but also in watch screen layouts - what fields should be visible on the main watch screen and what should be on the secondary? I have my own preferences when I'm kiting, but I would like to get a second opinion :D
Hi Aleks,

I love the dedication.

Things to know while using the app:

current time
Highest jump
Jump direction
Last jump

for an app outside WOO:
Compatibility with apple work-out app
max speed
session duration
On water time (so excluding gearing up etc)

Thanks
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Re: Apple Watch Apps compared for Freeriding

Postby Gestalt » Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:32 pm

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Thu Feb 04, 2021 4:40 pm
Please let me know if you have any other recomendations. Thanks :thumb: !
For the social sharing function it would be nice to have the important data like distance and max speed overlayed on a satellite image of the heat path map.
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Re: Apple Watch Apps compared for Freeriding

Postby aleks » Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:20 pm

Kitemenn wrote:
Fri Feb 05, 2021 2:59 pm

Hi Aleks,

I love the dedication.

Things to know while using the app:

current time
Highest jump
Jump direction
Last jump

for an app outside WOO:
Compatibility with apple work-out app
max speed
session duration
On water time (so excluding gearing up etc)

Thanks
Thanks! All these things are already there in the new WOO watch app (coming soon :D ). The only exception is Jump Direction - not sure what it is. Do you mean just left or right? That would make sense in the WOO phone app - I can ask WOO developers if they have this data and if they can include it in the jump info screen.

About "On water time". For me it is the same as session duration - I start the app right before going into the water and stop it immediately after getting back on the beach. I don't think the app can reliably distinguish gearing up time from on water time anyway.

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Re: Apple Watch Apps compared for Freeriding

Postby aleks » Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:29 pm

Gestalt wrote:
Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:32 pm
aleks wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 4:40 pm
Please let me know if you have any other recomendations. Thanks :thumb: !
For the social sharing function it would be nice to have the important data like distance and max speed overlayed on a satellite image of the heat path map.
Thanks! That is the plan, I'll definetly try to do it.

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Re: Apple Watch Apps compared for Freeriding

Postby dice » Sat Feb 06, 2021 10:14 pm

Kitemenn wrote:
Fri Feb 05, 2021 2:59 pm
Jump direction
What's the use for that?

@Aleks
Things I'd want on screen.
- Current time
- Wind speed/wind direction for the current spot
- Time on the water
- Max speed
- Distance
- Heart rate.

But I'm not sure if I'd want them all at once on the screen, the info needs to be visible in a quick glance.
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Re: Apple Watch Apps compared for Freeriding

Postby aleks » Sun Feb 07, 2021 1:29 pm

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Sat Feb 06, 2021 10:14 pm
@Aleks
Things I'd want on screen.
- Current time
- Wind speed/wind direction for the current spot
- Time on the water
- Max speed
- Distance
- Heart rate.

But I'm not sure if I'd want them all at once on the screen, the info needs to be visible in a quick glance.
Thanks! Most fields are already planned for implementation. But wind speed/direction would require internet connection on the watch (LTE models only).

On the screen layout. What would you like to see on the main screen? If you had 7 fields for example, what would you like to use? Here is a proposed layout:

- Session time
- Current time
- Max speed
- Max 30 sec speed
- Current speed - BIG FONT
- Distance
- Heart rate

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Re: Apple Watch Apps compared for Freeriding

Postby Kitemenn » Mon Feb 08, 2021 8:58 am

aleks wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:20 pm
Thanks! All these things are already there in the new WOO watch app (coming soon :D ). The only exception is Jump Direction - not sure what it is. Do you mean just left or right? That would make sense in the WOO phone app - I can ask WOO developers if they have this data and if they can include it in the jump info screen.

About "On water time". For me it is the same as session duration - I start the app right before going into the water and stop it immediately after getting back on the beach. I don't think the app can reliably distinguish gearing up time from on water time anyway.
Yeah direction just left right. Indeed maybe more relevant for the WOO app. But for after research it would be nice to see max height left and/or right. About "on water time" you could use somethin similar to WOO already use for closing the session (using last jump) to also start the session so session starts at first jump.

Looking forward to your build on the watch app. First my WOO is back for service...hope they can put some life in it again.
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Re: Apple Watch Apps compared for Freeriding

Postby Kitemenn » Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:55 am

My WOO is getting replaced! YEAAAHHH so even more looking out for this new watch app on apple watch! Any eta @aleks?

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Re: Apple Watch Apps compared for Freeriding

Postby aleks » Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:29 pm

Kitemenn wrote:
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My WOO is getting replaced! YEAAAHHH so even more looking out for this new watch app on apple watch! Any eta @aleks?
Sorry, missed your post. The new WOO app for Apple watch should be out in a week or so 8) . I hope you guys like it :thumb:
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Re: Apple Watch Apps compared for Freeriding

Postby capewindhunter » Wed Feb 24, 2021 1:21 pm

aleks wrote:
Sun Feb 07, 2021 1:29 pm
dice wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 10:14 pm
@Aleks
Things I'd want on screen.
- Current time
- Wind speed/wind direction for the current spot
- Time on the water
- Max speed
- Distance
- Heart rate.

But I'm not sure if I'd want them all at once on the screen, the info needs to be visible in a quick glance.
Thanks! Most fields are already planned for implementation. But wind speed/direction would require internet connection on the watch (LTE models only).

On the screen layout. What would you like to see on the main screen? If you had 7 fields for example, what would you like to use? Here is a proposed layout:

- Session time
- Current time
- Max speed
- Max 30 sec speed
- Current speed - BIG FONT
- Distance
- Heart rate
Aleks - thank you for working on this app

I think it would be great to have some customization for the fields that you see. Putting too many numbers might make them too small to read on the water.

At least there should be 2 or 3 different modes such as big air where you see jump info (together with time) or speed mode where you see top speed, distance etc. Different people care about different thing IMHO.

Thanks again!
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