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Re: Naish Triad downgrade from Ride?

Postby Saltyman » Sun Sep 27, 2020 8:46 am

Agree with Dirk.
But Triad Boost bigger than Slash and has more hang.
Slash has awesome drift but lacks the lift you really have to send the Slash hard. The Triad is simple sheet in and boost.
If you're after an all round kite and not going to try to be a megastar. Triad goes well. Ross Dylan player just put up a good post of him megalooping the Triad well worth the watch.
It's a perfect all round kite..
Robby hit nail on the head when he said 99% of riders should be on the Triad.
Not pimping Naish.
My favourite kite so far this year is the Eleveight RS as has multiple bridle settings.
And is super fast.
IMO just as quick as Orbit but better bar feel less input needed and very easy to get dialled in on plus has massive wind range.
It's different strokes for different folks.
But good deals going on 19/20 Naish Triad atm.
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Re: Naish Triad downgrade from Ride?

Postby j0ris » Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:40 pm

Indeed I spotted some deals for the Triad, though with limited choice in size.

With my 75 kg (165 lb), would a 10m be suitable for the usual beginners wind range (14-22 knots)? I suspect it will, as the wind range of the Triad is reported to be quite good, but Naish doesn't appear to have a wind chart for the Triad. Saltyman, what is your experience with the wind range?

And would it also suit a 65 kg (143 lb) person?

I have a feeling I might outgrow the Triad quicker than a Pivot, but there are far fewer deals for the latter, and my girlfriend might prefer the slightly friendlier Triad.

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Re: Naish Triad downgrade from Ride?

Postby Saltyman » Sun Sep 27, 2020 10:16 pm

10m would cover you perfectly.
You won't outgrow it that fast you can do Inverted frontrolls hit a wave boost good.
Still learn loops especially on the 10m.
Not until you're unhooking or going massive backroll frontroll megaloops.
But by time you're at that level you will know what kite to get without a doubt.
It would suit a 65kg they will be comfortable in 12-20 knots easy as has good depower.
My only suggestion would be if you are sharing the kite. Don't go base bar go the torque atb bar as you can adjust the throw.
So if 65 kg rider has shorter arms they can adjust to suit them.
Most run out are with torque bar as not many people took up base bar.
Even though they are cheaper. And btw a good bar as a backup.
All the best have fun ride hard try to stay safe and don't endanger the general public.
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Re: Naish Triad downgrade from Ride?

Postby alford » Mon Sep 28, 2020 4:00 am

Isn't there an adjustable (with a screw) stopper ball on the base bar? The trim is below the bar so not sure why you think it's not good for smaller riders.

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Re: Naish Triad downgrade from Ride?

Postby Saltyman » Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:36 am

Never said it's a bad bar.
But torque atb is just easier to change over.
As it's just pull through to change no screw required so ease of use is what I'm referring to.

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Re: Naish Triad downgrade from Ride?

Postby j0ris » Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:57 pm

Saltyman, many thanks for your advice!!

One more question - I was wondering about the bar myself: you mention the ATB (above the bar) version of the Torque, is there a reason you think it's more suitable than the BTB (below the bar) version?

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Re: Naish Triad downgrade from Ride?

Postby nothing2seehere » Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:32 pm

ATB is easier to adjust on the fly. Not so much a problem for experienced riders who may set the trim once and then leave if for the session using board edging to control the power but less experience riders will use the trim more often.

ATB can be adjusted easily for arm reach. BTB is basically trapped against your harness whether you like it or not. This has a double benefit of acting like a stopper ball (nothing more 'fun' than letting go of the bar and then realising you can't reach it again without climbing up the centre lines) which is easy to adjust by adjusting the available throw on the lines rather than needing a screwdriver to adjust.

My own experience was that ATB subjectively felt like it was simpler. When I'm looking at the kite I can see how much trim I have applied and where the trim strap is. With BTB I need to look away from the kite to see where the dangle of trim is and this can be a bit more challenging if you are in deep water and not on the board.

Equally some don't like to see a length of trim flapping around above the bar so prefer BTB so there are subjective reasons why you might prefer either way.
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Re: Naish Triad downgrade from Ride?

Postby j0ris » Wed Sep 30, 2020 4:08 pm

To answer part of my own question and add to the above: only the ATB version of the Torque offers *toolless* depower height adjustment.

So that would probably make it the best choice for those wanting to share a Naish bar with someone with smaller arms / height.

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Re: Naish Triad downgrade from Ride?

Postby tautologies » Wed Sep 30, 2020 6:27 pm

j0ris wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 4:08 pm
To answer part of my own question and add to the above: only the ATB version of the Torque offers *toolless* depower height adjustment.

So that would probably make it the best choice for those wanting to share a Naish bar with someone with smaller arms / height.
You can buy the movable height adjuster separately. I think its like $10 or something like that. I have that on one of my bars.

Personally I don't care too much if it is an ATB or BTB...I might be slight favourable to the BTB because it is cleaner.
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Re: Naish Triad downgrade from Ride?

Postby j0ris » Thu Oct 01, 2020 11:06 am

tautologies wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 6:27 pm
You can buy the movable height adjuster separately. I think its like $10 or something like that. I have that on one of my bars.
Interesting! Would you happen to have the exact name of this part, or a link? I can't seem to find it here: https://naishusa.com/collections/kite-p ... ories/kite

And are you sure you can just install this height adjuster on a BTB bar?
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