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Re: Use a wavekite with a twintip?

Postby apollo4000 » Wed Oct 07, 2020 12:11 pm

Defo. I think you get more options. You can still bury the edge and power up your tack or take the power off and let the kite drift while swishing about on waves.
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Re: Use a wavekite with a twintip?

Postby windsuks » Wed Oct 07, 2020 5:26 pm

Like previously posts above, plenty of "wave" kites will still boost especially given the right conditions and technique.
this was yesterday on a 2021 7m North Carve
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Re: Use a wavekite with a twintip?

Postby dracop » Wed Oct 07, 2020 7:38 pm

windsuks wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 5:26 pm
Like previously posts above, plenty of "wave" kites will still boost especially given the right conditions and technique.
this was yesterday on a 2021 7m North Carve
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And check out how SQUARE the tip of that board is! It can be made to work altho it prob wont compete with a kite focused on jumps. Still if he was aiming for 15m+ airs he would probably have said so or not even asked - once people get to 15+m airs they acquire whatever gear will take them higher.

I have never seen anyone jump more than 15m with a wave kite. Its not what those kites were designed for. In contrast I have watched the superpros training in CPT in person hitting 25-33m jumps with loops on C kites, open c kites, delta hybrids, etc.

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Re: Use a wavekite with a twintip?

Postby andrewjohn » Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:23 pm

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Wed Oct 07, 2020 6:47 am
I use Religions, though rarely on a TT. But that's not because it doesn't work. It works, though it likes boardspeed, so its low end is not very good on a TT. Its topend is, though, so if you use it in strong winds, it will do you fine. You'll jump, but not quite to the moon.

Do it!
That’s not my experience with the 8m. The low end is very good. I can park and ride when I could be having fun on my 10.5, but I find small kites can have a huge wind range compared to larger kites.

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Re: Use a wavekite with a twintip?

Postby longwhitecloud » Thu Oct 08, 2020 1:11 am

Smaller kites are generally faster turning and therefore can generate much more apparent wind by moving them.

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Re: Use a wavekite with a twintip?

Postby or6 » Thu Oct 08, 2020 6:41 am

That’s not my experience with the 8m. The low end is very good. I can park and ride when I could be having fun on my 10.5, but I find small kites can have a huge wind range compared to larger kites.
Yeah, you're right, religions have very good low end, but especially on fast boards and in the hands of active kitefliers. Only when you let the board go fast...and if you fly the kite. It's a lot less impressive when you don't fly the kite actively or let your board run free. Once you're up to speed, the low end is very good, and you can park the kite just fine.
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Re: Use a wavekite with a twintip?

Postby plummet » Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:03 am

A wave kite works in high winds but its more safe and not as much fire boosting fun. Want save and predictable then go wave. Want more wang in your jumps then look at mid aspect do it all kite.
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Re: Use a wavekite with a twintip?

Postby DonaldM » Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:35 am

I own a set of North/Duotone Neo's since I waved quite a bit last year, which i always thought to be suitable for twintipping.. untill.. yesterday I changed to dices which i borrowed from a friend (flew back-to-back) and oh my.. the dices were twice as fun on the Twintip. Looping with more pull, higher more floaty jumps instead of dropping out of the sky.. I couldn't stop kiting, pure pleasure.

In short, it was such a difference that i'm going to buy me a set of dices.

ofc. Probably my Neo's are twice as fun on the surfboard, but if you mainly go out on a twintip, get a freeride oriented kite!

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Re: Use a wavekite with a twintip?

Postby longwhitecloud » Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:26 pm

The obsession with kite kit in 2020 - It is completely over the top and out of control IMO and does a big disservice to actual kiteboarding overall IMO

Even at the top level we shouldnt be encouraging kiteboarding to develop into even more of an equipment development sport - there is no need, it makes an expensive sport even more expensive and with less inclusivity.

The fact is that with most kites today (LEI) you can do pretty much do everything to a super high level. In fact when you look at kite design closely today - you will realise how similar kites performances are compared to 10+ years ago.

If you want proof - just watch youtube videos of kiting 10 + years ago - just shows what complete garbage putting emphasis on kit is.
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Re: Use a wavekite with a twintip?

Postby iriejohn » Thu Oct 08, 2020 2:56 pm

longwhitecloud wrote:
Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:26 pm
The obsession with kite kit in 2020 - It is completely over the top and out of control IMO and does a big disservice to actual kiteboarding overall IMO

Even at the top level we shouldnt be encouraging kiteboarding to develop into even more of an equipment development sport - there is no need, it makes an expensive sport even more expensive and with less inclusivity.

The fact is that with most kites today (LEI) you can do pretty much do everything to a super high level. In fact when you look at kite design closely today - you will realise how similar kites performances are compared to 10+ years ago.

If you want proof - just watch youtube videos of kiting 10 + years ago - just shows what complete garbage putting emphasis on kit is.
The OP has been kiting since 2020 and asked the below completely reasonable question.

Your above rant has absolutely nothing to do with the OP, at best being unhelpful and at worst being an undisguised attempt to make yourself look clever.
samo421 wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 6:07 pm
Hello, Im looking at getting a 7m kite for stronger winds 25+ as I only have a RRD Passion 10.5m atm but don't really want to spend a huge amount of money. I looked at The RRD RELIGION MK7 7m which is only £450 new however it is a wave kite mainly. Also im 76kg

Anyone know if this Would this be good enough for freeride/upwind and small jumps with a twin tip in this wind or should i not bother using a wave kite? I have a 138x41 north Gonzales board. Thanks
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