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Re: Next Slingshot UFO/Ghost Kite Generation

Postby Djrinaustin » Sun Mar 27, 2022 1:02 pm

grigorib wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 8:23 pm
4m ghost and 5m UFO felt pretty close to me because ghost delivers more powerful looping.
Yes, the new sizes are exciting and my mind is playing with numbers I’d want to see in my quiver.
I really want the 4m UFO but I can’t detach myself from excellence of 5m (to my weight and riding style). In that line 7/10 would be great extrapolation or 8/11. I like 7m but there’s no 10m size…
Choices..choices
It seems to me the 5m is everyone’s favourite UFO regardless of body weight - true for me at 180lb/81kg on medium wings. My only use case for the 7m is to support strapped boosting - and then I’d rather have struts (so a Ghost or a n SST). That said I do *love* the 3m. In “Gorge like conditions”. I know many say its too small, but the way it moves through a down loop then seems to let go right at the perfect spot for chasing swell - its not much short of magical BUT… its one small kite if the conditions change.

SO,, I’m with Grigori the 4m is hot on my list and I’m fearful of betraying my beloved 5m, so bet I end up buying them all :-)

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Re: Next Slingshot UFO/Ghost Kite Generation

Postby Nak » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:00 am


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Re: Next Slingshot UFO/Ghost Kite Generation

Postby Djrinaustin » Wed Apr 06, 2022 12:36 pm

I'm fearful of "freakin supply chain" BS getting in the way of me getting my hands on these this summer. I've engineered pretty much the entire summer on the beach at Event Site this year, testing, playing and learning (always learning right). But the question is, will I actually have any new toys to play with :-)

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Re: Next Slingshot UFO/Ghost Kite Generation

Postby purdyd » Wed Apr 06, 2022 2:42 pm

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Re: Next Slingshot UFO/Ghost Kite Generation

Postby Nak » Wed Apr 06, 2022 6:06 pm



There's online stores in France and The Netherlands showing the V2 available to buy.

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Re: Next Slingshot UFO/Ghost Kite Generation

Postby Nak » Thu Apr 07, 2022 1:22 am

purdyd wrote:
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Where did you find that ad? It's very cool. Funny, this is the first time ever that I've been excited for the release of a new kite.

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Re: Next Slingshot UFO/Ghost Kite Generation

Postby Nak » Sun Apr 10, 2022 6:55 am

I've ordered a V2 8m, a 4m will be in my quiver before summer for sure. I'm thinking 4,5,6, 8, 11.

What's interesting is that the V2 claimed weights on Slingshots websites are not much different than the V1.1. SS claims 1.3 kg for the 5m, which is 2.86 pounds. My 5m V1.1 weighs in at 2.9 pounds... The V2 7m and 9m claimed weights are 0.2 pounds lighter than my V1.1 versions of those sizes. Still, a pretty darn light kite. I'm more curious to see how fast they are and how easily they handle.

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Re: Next Slingshot UFO/Ghost Kite Generation

Postby purdyd » Mon Apr 11, 2022 4:44 am

Nak wrote:
Sun Apr 10, 2022 6:55 am
I've ordered a V2 8m, a 4m will be in my quiver before summer for sure. I'm thinking 4,5,6, 8, 11.

What's interesting is that the V2 claimed weights on Slingshots websites are not much different than the V1.1. SS claims 1.3 kg for the 5m, which is 2.86 pounds. My 5m V1.1 weighs in at 2.9 pounds... The V2 7m and 9m claimed weights are 0.2 pounds lighter than my V1.1 versions of those sizes. Still, a pretty darn light kite. I'm more curious to see how fast they are and how easily they handle.
I saw those weights which as you stated sort of raised more questions then answers as there isn’t much of any difference from the V1.1.

And I can find any mention of a smaller diameter leading edge.

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Re: Next Slingshot UFO/Ghost Kite Generation

Postby Nak » Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:17 am

EDITED: I first wrote this post thinking I was measuring a V2 8m, as that's what I ordered from a retailer. Oops! It is in fact a 9m.

I received a 9m UFO. Here are some measurements:

According to my scale it weighs 4.25 pounds. However, my scale also weighs a 2Kg reference weight at 4.48 pounds, when it should weigh 4.41 pounds. Taking into account that error, the 9m weighs 4.18 pounds which is very slightly less than advertised. (4.19 pounds vs 4.18 pounds.) Very nice to see an advertised weight that is not only realistic, but a tiny bit conservative! My 9m V1.1 UFO weighs in at 4.48 pounds after correction. So the V2 9m is .3 pounds lighter than the V1.1 as weighed on my scale back to back.

The V2 9m is just slightly larger than the V1.1 9m. Wing chord is about 2" greater and wing span is 2" - 4" greater.

The LE material of both kites mic's out at just over .6 mm thick doubled up. LE diameter is identical, or so close I can't tell, between the two.

The bridal diameter mic's out at 1.6 mm on the V2 and 2.1 mm on the V1.1 The bridal is visibly smaller in diameter on the V2. This should make the V2 faster for sure.

The bridal has different geometry on the V2. Check the pictures. With the bridal tight except for the line with the bungee, the V2 bridal crosses the trailing edge considerably more inboard than the V1.1 bridal does.

The center line pigtails are improved. The older Slingshot pigtails would kind of jam as you opened up the larks head to detach the lines. The new version fixes this issue. A small, but appreciated, detail.

I have yet to fly the V2; that probably will happen in the first week of May. TBH, I am more concerned with how the kite feels and how fast it is than the fact that it weighs less. If the kite feels lighter at the control bar I'll be ecstatic. The UFO is already exceptionally light. I'm hoping that: the design has been tweaked and that combined with the thinner bridles it makes the kite faster and more responsive. Mostly I care about the 8m and the 11m being more responsive than the V1.1 7m and 9m respectively. Actually, if the 8m feels as good as the V1.1 7m and the 11m feels as good as the V1.1 9m, I'll be thrilled. That will make the 6-5-4 combination killer for stronger winds, and the 8m-11m perfect for lighter winds. I'm completely happy with the V1.1 5m as it sits, and I imagine the 4m will be even better.

The 11m should be considerably lighter than the one strut 12m kites, about 2 pounds lighter than my current 12m. That should hopefully make the 11m faster; it should be a light wind killer. If so, I'll be happy. EDITED: See my next post, apparently the 11m is in fact a light wind killer.
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