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Re: The best way to self land 4 line kite with low V

Postby JaDan » Sun Oct 25, 2020 5:48 pm

edt wrote:
Sun Oct 25, 2020 5:36 pm
I use lower line technique it's better when the wind is above 35 knots because with both center line there's too much pressure. I made a few videos about how to use the single lower line technique
Link to video please. 🙏

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Re: The best way to self land 4 line kite with low V

Postby edt » Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:06 am

I can't find it, maybe it got deleted by accident. I'll make another one but want to wait for wind at least 25 knots. Most self land techniques are garbage because they show them in 10 knots light wind day and any technique works then.

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Re: The best way to self land 4 line kite with low V

Postby airsail » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:17 am

Lower front line is the only way with a Cloud or UFO, they just won’t drop if you pull the top front line and just blow away being so light.
Self launch can cause issues too, but starting them on their back seems to work well.
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Re: The best way to self land 4 line kite with low V

Postby faklord » Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:30 am

airsail wrote:
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Self launch can cause issues too, but starting them on their back seems to work well.
I hadn’t thought of that.
So do you just follow the self land procedure (as in video above) in reverse?

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Re: The best way to self land 4 line kite with low V

Postby ScoopZ » Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:49 am

Step 4 suggestion, I hold both front lines from the V and work my way up hand over hand. Upon reaching the point of the stopper ball on my ozone line I let the top line slide out gradually and continue on.

The kite moves more onto it's back and you can secure by holding the bridle and then LE.

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Re: The best way to self land 4 line kite with low V

Postby Delta99 » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:08 pm

Top or lower front line? Different advice here. Both works it seems. I always thought top was the way to go, will try the lower.

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Re: The best way to self land 4 line kite with low V

Postby Baptiste_FR » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:16 pm

In my opinion, the safest way of landing alone is to use an anchor point. If you ride on a wide sand beach, you always have a possibility to use an anchor (sand bag, wooden cross in a hole...). Or you can buy a kitehook.
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Re: The best way to self land 4 line kite with low V

Postby purdyd » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:43 pm

Baptiste_FR wrote:
Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:16 pm
In my opinion, the safest way of landing alone is to use an anchor point. If you ride on a wide sand beach, you always have a possibility to use an anchor (sand bag, wooden cross in a hole...). Or you can buy a kitehook.
Yes but it isn’t always possible to tether launch and land.

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Re: The best way to self land 4 line kite with low V

Postby purdyd » Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:35 pm

ScoopZ wrote:
Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:49 am
Step 4 suggestion, I hold both front lines from the V and work my way up hand over hand. Upon reaching the point of the stopper ball on my ozone line I let the top line slide out gradually and continue on.

The kite moves more onto it's back and you can secure by holding the bridle and then LE.
I’ve always walk up with both lines keeping them relatively even. In reality you often get more tension on one of the front lines,

I’ve generally favored more tension on the top. For one reason, as you get closer to the kite with more tension on the top line you get a better feel for how the kite is behaving snd a better angle for pulling the top line to put the kite leading edge down.

I’ll have to play around with more on the back.

My experience with a strutted kite on its back is it will fly. I haven’t tried that on the side.

My no strut ufo, is absolutely better to land on its back.

I’m not a big fan of self landing by pulling the top or bottom line in strong winds. Also with kites getting lighter and shapes improving relaunch, it is becoming more difficult to put them down with one line.

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Re: The best way to self land 4 line kite with low V

Postby PullStrings » Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:57 pm

That's correct
You could end up far from your anchor when its time to land right away

Like you @purdyd walking all the way to the kite is what i do
Walking the lines of any type of V or Y low...medium...high does not matter
Been doing that for over 20 years
I suggest for people to start in lighter winds and progress to maximum wind that the kite size allows

Challenge yourself and see if you can balance the kite in 10 kn on its wingtip and walk all the way
then try with 15...20....25...30...35 +++

1- depower kite first then rest it on wingtip on sand at edge of window
2- walk to wards kite about one meter to have kite roll down a bit from tip
3- sometimes pull on the lower steering lines also
4- the idea is to increase the curve in the leading edge (crunching) and stabilize the kite even more exposing it to less wind
5- move yourself a bit upwind a meter or two
6- let go of the bar let it drop the near your knees stay hooked in
7- don't put wet bar on the sand and make it all dirty
8- start your walk hand over hand gradually going upwind of kite so all the lines stay downwind of you
9- no rush take your time you might have 25 meters to go so take 25 seconds
10- when you get to the front lines grab them both
11- keep walking until you reach the kite leading edge
12- put the LE down safely then detach from your chicken loop and put the bar on kite canopy to keep it clean
13- if it is safe to do so and your kite is not going to fly away go get your board and now put your bar on it

Just wanted to share

And by the way @Bill good thread
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