I understand your question, but this cannot be answered on a meta level, then it stays too vague.Havre wrote: ↑Fri Nov 06, 2020 12:07 pmI do not know enough about the total picture to have much of an opinion, but seems like a reasonable goal at least.souspeed wrote: ↑Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:36 amLet' start with a global ban on the usage of plastic for small packaging and throw away tools, and replace these with biodegradable or durable versions.
Plus each country being responsible for the recycling of their own plastic, and not allowed to export this plastic.
What I find so sad is how it is impossible at the moment to have a proper nuanced conversation. slide obviously being a good example of someone that is just incapable of having any sort of meaningful discussion with. Plastic is probably doing some harm, but it is also doing a lot of good things for human "life". What if replacing plastic means an increase in Co2-emissions because whatever we replace it with will require more energy to be produced? Doesn't mean in such a situation that I mean plastic should not be replaced, but this requires some deep thinking - and that one cannot have such a discussion based on slogans and instagram pictures of tortoises swallowing plastic.
Less CO2 for plastic versions, might be better or worse. Depending on the possible solutions.
Therefore; you will need to quantify it.
Milk in plastic bottles is far more CO2 friendly to transport, than milk in 'heavy' reusable glas bottles.
So you will need to find a solution for this transportation problem.
E.g. having milk supply trucks refill the glass bottles at the supermarket or a distribution center close to the city.
This will make the milk a bit more expensive, but this is the premium we will all have to pay for a clean environment.
Plastic is too cheap to use, that's the problem, and that's why we need a ban.