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Re: Core Sensor 3 Safety Issues (Core statement in initial post)

Postby kitetime » Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:03 am

The kite was back stalling significantly, particularly foiling in light winds.

The pigtails are meant to be the same length according to Core, so I’ve trimmed the lines to the same length snd moved the knot on the pigtails so they are equal length.

Waiting for sone wind to assess the changes but I think it should rectify the issues.

I noticed from your photo in another thread that your pigtails on the front lines are also stretched out. I recommend relocating the knot to compensate unless you have trimmed your lines to be equal length at the end of the pigtails. It does make a significant difference In the way I kite flies.

Thanks so much for your continued concern.
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Re: Core Sensor 3 Safety Issues (Core statement in initial post)

Postby Matty V » Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:06 am

Sheeting out/using the trimmer gives you far more range than 1cm on the pig tails if the kite is significantly stalling, it’s pretty basic kite flying
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Re: Core Sensor 3 Safety Issues (Core statement in initial post)

Postby kitetime » Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:13 am

Yes but it’s nice and the correct way to approach things to regularly trim your lines which gives an even playing field in which to start. This is pretty much common wisdom, but whatever works for you.

Regularly checking your lines also allows you to compensate for left / right imbalances which the trim strap on your bar cannot compensate for.

Maybe I am OCD but my opinion is do it right from the beginning. Look after your gear and your gear will look after you.

This may be more important for foiling in light winds than kite surfing on strong winds.

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Re: Core Sensor 3 Safety Issues (Core statement in initial post)

Postby kitetime » Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:17 am

Got your edification there’s a good video here….


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Re: Core Sensor 3 Safety Issues (Core statement in initial post)

Postby Matty V » Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:54 am

kitetime wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:03 am
The kite was back stalling significantly, particularly foiling in light winds.

The pigtails are meant to be the same length according to Core, so I’ve trimmed the lines to the same length snd moved the knot on the pigtails so they are equal length.

Waiting for sone wind to assess the changes but I think it should rectify the issues.

I noticed from your photo in another thread that your pigtails on the front lines are also stretched out. I recommend relocating the knot to compensate unless you have trimmed your lines to be equal length at the end of the pigtails. It does make a significant difference In the way I kite flies.

Thanks so much for your continued concern.
Given that I don’t fly my kites unhooked and on full power the entire time I am not sure of the benefits you are espousing.

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Re: Core Sensor 3 Safety Issues (Core statement in initial post)

Postby kitetime » Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:08 am

I don’t fly unhooked. And the issue is more with light wind than strong wind

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Re: Core Sensor 3 Safety Issues (Core statement in initial post)

Postby Matty V » Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:06 pm

So given that you are riding hooked in and if you have any light wind sensibilities will be flying with a degree of trim applied to keep the kite driving forward, your 1cm or less of pig tail difference isn’t making a “significant difference”

Granted you could be sat there with the kite trimmer on full power hunched over pulling the bar in for all you are worth choking the crap out of the kite, but that would be flying skills having a greater effect rather than trim.

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Re: Core Sensor 3 Safety Issues (Core statement in initial post)

Postby Raynski » Fri Mar 18, 2022 9:10 pm

Getting sick of this shit, ive had the exact same thing happen as this happened to me. Does anyone have any good suggestions for alternative bars that work well with core kites?


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Re: Core Sensor 3 Safety Issues (Core statement in initial post)

Postby Faxie » Fri Mar 18, 2022 9:31 pm

Raynski wrote:
Fri Mar 18, 2022 9:10 pm
Getting sick of this shit, ive had the exact same thing happen as this happened to me. Does anyone have any good suggestions for alternative bars that work well with core kites?

Any bar is fine if you ask me. You can always get a Y-splitter from Duotone or kiteattitude.fr or something.

Yeah, the '100-50 safety' is bull if you ask me.

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Re: Core Sensor 3 Safety Issues (Core statement in initial post)

Postby leeuwen » Fri Mar 18, 2022 10:06 pm

That start of the video looks like something that can and will happen with any bar.
Various conditions can create a moment of no pull from the kite and if the chickendick is not in there the loop will just fall out of the hook.
Always check the chickendick before launch for exactly this reason or switch to a system where this cannot happen e.g. surf loop.

I would agree the non standard 90-10% flag out is not a great design. Would be better if they stick to the industry default: fully single flag.
For reaching the kite: you should still be able to get those last meters to the kite by making sure you only pull/wind up the single power line that has tension (basically forcing single line flag out).
Kite should flip on its back when you do this and there should not be much power from the kite when it is “parked” on its back. Also note that the kite in the video was not build for this flag out system and that probably did not help.

Regarding other bars: you can buy a universal line splitter to use on any bar so you can set where the split is. Do note you might need to adjust the length (eg longer pigtails) when you make a V based bar a high Y.


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