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Re: Core Sensor 3 Safety Issues (Core statement in initial post)

Postby Matteo V » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:46 pm

Matty V wrote:
Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:45 pm
deniska wrote:
Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:24 pm
I think they send a mixed message:
wash after each use, but not too often :-)
or are they changing the stance for S3 only
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That pic and advice is clearly for the 2S as it states..

Stop trying to create confusion and create problems. The statement from Core is clear, the specify lines and kites.

The line coating and the coating on the kite is what they want people to preserve.

The advice on the label you posted is clear and common sense, rinse sand etc out of moving parts.
Exactly like the Sensor 2?????

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Re: Core Sensor 3 Safety Issues (Core statement in initial post)

Postby deniska » Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:15 pm

not rinsing lines after each use is the most retarded advise I heard in a while..
It's only makes sense if you do not kite near sand or salty water..
sand particles and salt crystals, stuck between dynema fibers will kill your lines (under load) much faster than any damage due to diminished "protective" coating..
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Re: Core Sensor 3 Safety Issues (Core statement in initial post)

Postby Havre » Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:29 pm

What does "wash your lines" mean?

Is washing the same as rinsing?

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Re: Core Sensor 3 Safety Issues (Core statement in initial post)

Postby Matty V » Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:32 pm

Matteo V wrote:
Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:46 pm
Matty V wrote:
Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:45 pm
deniska wrote:
Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:24 pm
I think they send a mixed message:
wash after each use, but not too often :-)
or are they changing the stance for S3 only
Image
That pic and advice is clearly for the 2S as it states..

Stop trying to create confusion and create problems. The statement from Core is clear, the specify lines and kites.

The line coating and the coating on the kite is what they want people to preserve.

The advice on the label you posted is clear and common sense, rinse sand etc out of moving parts.
Exactly like the Sensor 2?????
Do you use a core bar? No

The advice on that pic for the sensor 2 describes a different CLoop assembly

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Re: Core Sensor 3 Safety Issues (Core statement in initial post)

Postby Kerplow » Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:59 pm

Ok, I got a reply from core on this topic. They send me a link to this forum, to this exact post. So they confirm Toby's statement :)

Funny enough, I was first to send them the same link :D
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Re: Core Sensor 3 Safety Issues (Core statement in initial post)

Postby Havre » Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:04 pm

Kerplow wrote:
Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:59 pm
Ok, I got a reply from core on this topic. They send me a link to this forum, to this exact post. So they confirm Toby's statement :)

Funny enough, I was first to send them the same link :D
That is just beautiful.

I guess I´ll wait for the XR9 and Sensor 5 before I go Core.

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Re: Core Sensor 3 Safety Issues (Core statement in initial post)

Postby Matty V » Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:16 pm

deniska wrote:
Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:00 pm
Matty V wrote:
Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:32 pm


Do you use a core bar? No

The advice on that pic for the sensor 2 describes a different CLoop assembly

You know that because you can read, being deliberately obtuse to corrupt the topic despite Toby asking it to be kept on track isn’t very nice

You and Dennis are trying to turn this from the facts as set out, leave it at that as it has literally nothing to do with you or your equipment

Havre
Is it that hard to understand?
Maybe write to core and ask them..
The parts that actually triggered that yellow notice, namely metal stainless tube and plastic flag out line, are still unchanged in S3 bar to my best knowledge..
those millimeter tolerances between metal and hard plastic guarantee jamming due to sand if not rinsed regularly and diligently..
so if CORE does not send same notice with new bars they pretty much screw their customers..
S3.jpg
The notice is for 2S

The pic is of the release on the 3S a product you don’t know if have had any changes. So you are guessing, why?

Even if it hasn’t changed what on earth is wrong with a company telling its customers to actually maintain their gear and rinse out the release and flag out mech?

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Re: Core Sensor 3 Safety Issues

Postby flipper231 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:23 pm

deniska wrote:
Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:54 am
This is not a new issue.. was there with sensor2.
Definitely was discussed here before.
I really do not see the reasoning for placing this critical moving part so far up.
Pretty much everyone else does it the right way: depower slider block (not a tiny ring) AND close to rider.
Being a high Y is not an excuse. Look at DUO trust bar.
Why does it need to be close? Easy to inspect and clean before and after launch (just splash some water on it if sandy, once you get on the water)
With CORE setup you basically need to dunk the kite in to water to clean it, every time you start..
Everything in the CORE design, suggests that sand was not a big consideration.. I guess they mostly rig on a grass..
The bar easily jams in 3 different places..
just do yourself a favor and get another high Y bar to fly your COREs.. Duotone '20 trust bar is about 200 cheaper and while not perfect, does not have half of the problems of sensor.. (don't get me started about PU covered lines that break w/o warning)...
Duotone is the worst example. Terrible lines, depower line frays very quickly near the swivel, the Y metal piece gets tangled, the knot at the Y might sit outside of the casing and you have a sweet kite turning too much on one side and not enough on the other... should I keep going?
Been riding Duotone North since 2007 with other brands along the way....

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Re: Core Sensor 3 Safety Issues

Postby deniska » Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:50 pm

flipper231 wrote:
Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:23 pm
deniska wrote:
Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:54 am
This is not a new issue.. was there with sensor2.
Definitely was discussed here before.
I really do not see the reasoning for placing this critical moving part so far up.
Pretty much everyone else does it the right way: depower slider block (not a tiny ring) AND close to rider.
Being a high Y is not an excuse. Look at DUO trust bar.
Why does it need to be close? Easy to inspect and clean before and after launch (just splash some water on it if sandy, once you get on the water)
With CORE setup you basically need to dunk the kite in to water to clean it, every time you start..
Everything in the CORE design, suggests that sand was not a big consideration.. I guess they mostly rig on a grass..
The bar easily jams in 3 different places..
just do yourself a favor and get another high Y bar to fly your COREs.. Duotone '20 trust bar is about 200 cheaper and while not perfect, does not have half of the problems of sensor.. (don't get me started about PU covered lines that break w/o warning)...
Duotone is the worst example. Terrible lines, depower line frays very quickly near the swivel, the Y metal piece gets tangled, the knot at the Y might sit outside of the casing and you have a sweet kite turning too much on one side and not enough on the other... should I keep going?
Been riding Duotone North since 2007 with other brands along the way....
I never said that Duotone Trust was a holy grail of bars.. pretty shitty design and questionable materials..
for me it's virtually impossible to reassemble it in deep water after QR in any serious wind..
but I don't think it has as many potentials for jamming as Sensors; no PU on the lines - more predictable wear..
So between 2 shitty bars if you can get one and save $200 it's a no brainer.. at least for me.

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Re: Core Sensor 3 Safety Issues (Core statement in initial post)

Postby ulukaya » Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:49 pm

Wow, just wow. While you are supporting Pride, you are missing Humanity, talking about shooting people.

I don't think you are supporting neither Core or Duotone with that tone. It'd be a shame for either company if they keep you as an ambassador for their brand.

These forums keeps getting longer because of tone deaf ambassadors replying threads instead of the company themselves.

They really confuse Social media strategy with "Everything goes".
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by Toby » Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:12 pm

I remember the details to what has happened to your broken bar...you again didn’t mention that you should have exchanged the depower lines when to heavy wear on it so it won’t snap.

I never said you did attach the leash wrong.
Just making people aware of not attaching it wrong!

Last warning to stop bashing, because gear can break at any time!

I had broken gear as well, didn’t bash the brands. I rather informed them and made other people aware of problems if any from their side.

Bashers and haters are not welcome on my site!

Respectful and helpful people always.

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Just a reminder Toby you've warned this poster before, he has a serious 'hating' trolling problem, how many times do you have to reason with him? Here at duotone we normally take people like deniska to the side of the road and shoot them, it puts them out of their misery, it's the humane thing to do.. :wink:
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