Easy kite to learn kiteloops

[clement7631]

Hi guys,

I'd like to learn kiteloops, but I am 44 so I really want to keep it soft, and so I am looking for a kite that delivers a soft pull, and a tight and fast turn.

I already have an fone bar (I have 2019 bandits in big sizes) so I thought of a 7m2 or 8m2 2020 bandit or bandit S.

I also have a duotone bar (I have an evo 2019 7m and 2020 9m), so the dice is also an option, but I fear it pulls more than the bandits.

Alternatives could be the orbit, reach, pivot...

Your views?

Thanks
Clément

[WndRdr]

You have the kite to learn loops. In soft setting Evo gives you reasobable quick and soft loops. By changing setting to hard, you would get more pull in the loop. You can learn all basics with Evo.

When you get the downloops, heliloops, kiteloops in jumps, loops in transition dialled then you will also know if you like to get a kite that gives you some more agressive loops or not.

Just go for it.

[Blackened]

What WndRdr said. The Evo is the perfect kite to learn looping on. They're soft and quick, so when you screw it up it doesn't hurt nearly as much as something more aggressive.

Just make sure to keep pulling, otherwise it will definitely hurt.

[SMJ]

Cabrinha Moto is another great choice.

[dave1986]

Kite size is also arguably equally or more important than kite model.

You can loop any kite, but I think what you're looking for is a loop where the kite catches you before you land (I.e. the kite reaches the zenith before landing).

There is a balance to be struck for kite size. Smaller kites will of course loop and catch you quicker, but you'll need to go out in stronger (and scarier) winds on a smaller kite to get enough height. I think that a 7m or 8m fast turning kite is normally a good balance for most people (assuming your spot gets enough wind). Anything bigger than 9m gets quite difficult to complete a full loop (of course still possible). Just go out with medium power for first attempts.

I agree 7 or 8m Bandit or Bandit s is a good choice

[touffegong]

A small kite : 7m 8m or 9m (max) and a fast one : Dice, Orbit ...

I went from an Orbit 10 to a 9 and it's a different world !

[Jamesconn300]

The best time to practice looping for me was when the wind suddenly got super light.. Some of my first loops were with the 15m or 13.5m in sub 13kts when I could barely stay upwind and trying to get back to shore. just go for it.

[Frank82]

Use a size smaller than when you're going for your biggest boosts, where normally you would take a 9m in 30kn use a 7m to ease the pull and complete to loop a bit faster. Smaller kites are faster, will catch you better and the pull will be less compared to a bigger kite (in the same wind strength ofcourse).

[SolarSet]

Getting shorter lines on bar is a good tip as well. My XR 11m with 24m lines is doing huge loops even if I crank bar to max.

[MattyM]

Core Nexus. Or an old Core GTS4 - which was a much softer looping kite before they made it a lot more full-on with the 5.