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Re: Carbon vs Wood made boards

Postby Matteo V » Thu Dec 31, 2020 2:20 am

iriejohn wrote:
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Maybe the math has been lost in the mists of time.. or maybe it was a poor choice of word and he is now hoisted by his own petard given his predilection for pedantry
Alas, poor Hamlet aka Matteo V.

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Re: Carbon vs Wood made boards

Postby Matteo V » Fri Jan 01, 2021 4:58 pm




Another good vid.

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Re: Carbon vs Wood made boards

Postby MrStrike » Sat Jan 02, 2021 4:44 pm

Hi guys, first of all thanks for all your replies, really good information and experiences have been posted in this topic

Hope you have started a great 2021, just to go back to the original thread and provide a little guidance to my original question, here are the 2 boards I'm looking into in exploded view, so as to compare them in deep:


1) F-One Traxx (my actual board)

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Link with full description: https://www.f-one.world/product/trax-hrd-lite-tech-3/



2) F-One Carbon Traxx (the board I'm looking forward to buy)

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Link with full description: https://www.f-one.world/product/trax-hrd-carbon-series/


I agree with most of you that the best way to compare boards is testing them, I'm in conversations with F-One Argentina to provide me with a test board

However I would like to hear your input, at a glance the main difference of the two boards are the bi-axial carbon layers vs fiber glass layers

As my main use of the board is on wakestyle/unhooked tricks with boots bindings (not straps) and my knees are gonna absorb the landing impacts, I wonder if we can have an idea if the Carbon Traxx is about 10%-20%-30%-40%-50%-60% (?) stiffer than the normal Traxx?

Thanks again for your input!

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Re: Carbon vs Wood made boards

Postby TheJoe » Sat Jan 02, 2021 5:48 pm

If your going to go with boots then I would go with a glass board. Your going to want the flex for the hard landings.

Personally I stick to glass boards. Carbon costs so much and boards are all ready getting close to 1k for a normal setup. Some carbon boards are way past that price all ready.

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Re: Carbon vs Wood made boards

Postby Ludmil » Sat Jan 02, 2021 8:47 pm

MrStrike wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 4:44 pm


As my main use of the board is on wakestyle/unhooked tricks with boots bindings (not straps) and my knees are gonna absorb the landing impacts, I wonder if we can have an idea if the Carbon Traxx is about 10%-20%-30%-40%-50%-60% (?) stiffer than the normal Traxx?

Thanks again for your input!
Why Traxx? I'd suggest WTF? instead.
I would say that it's one of the best freestyle boards for boots nowadays.
Glass + carbon stripes construction...

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Re: Carbon vs Wood made boards

Postby MrStrike » Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:11 pm

Ludmil wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 8:47 pm
MrStrike wrote:
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As my main use of the board is on wakestyle/unhooked tricks with boots bindings (not straps) and my knees are gonna absorb the landing impacts, I wonder if we can have an idea if the Carbon Traxx is about 10%-20%-30%-40%-50%-60% (?) stiffer than the normal Traxx?

Thanks again for your input!
Why Traxx? I'd suggest WTF? instead.
I would say that it's one of the best freestyle boards for boots nowadays.
Glass + carbon stripes construction...
Yes, for sure I have also the WTF also in scope, just didn’t want to lose the comfort of the Traxx (specially within the chop) where the helical rail excells

Have you tried the WTF? Any comments? Thanks!

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Re: Carbon vs Wood made boards

Postby Ludmil » Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:12 pm

Yes, I do. I have it actually :)
It's awesome board.
We're highjacking little bit the thread though...

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Re: Carbon vs Wood made boards

Postby Matteo V » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:39 am

Ludmil wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:12 pm
Yes, I do. I have it actually :)
It's awesome board.
We're highjacking little bit the thread though...
Hijack away?! That is what the forum is for!

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Re: Carbon vs Wood made boards

Postby downunder » Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:53 am

Matty V wrote:
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Sonntag fins that have set multiple world records use precisely that resin system

Incidentally the boards I built were built with the same stuff and have ben clocked over 50 kts. Not for a publicity stunt either.

DU will say it doesn’t matter as it’s not being used In mass production TT boards or by him and his imaginary/lack of evidence board building empire.
Well,

we discussing a TT and you still go in circles about your speed boards. Correct, your speed boards do not matter, guess why? Because almost no one in the industry is using more than a single carbon layer.

And this is clearly demonstrated on above pics.

I'm not saying your builds are not great, and carbon works well for you. And wrapped rails are awesome. But THAT has nothing to do with 99.9% carbon boards out there.

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Re: Carbon vs Wood made boards

Postby Matty V » Thu Jan 07, 2021 1:02 pm

the Sonntag reference was because you incorrectly said no one was using bio resin..

I haven't used more than a Sigle carbon layer either, (apart from the rail overlap)
you saw fit to claim I was using a product that I hadn't so I will happily defend what I had built.


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