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Postby elmarco » Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:51 pm
Looking for advice on a kite ideal for young kids.
My boys are 5 & 7.
I've got a 15 year old 3m best 2 line trainer which they've flown before, but I don't find it ideal. That things been through the ringer, it doesn't relaunch, and tends to stall out, bridles maybe messed, I dunno.
I'll be teaching them mostly on the snow over the coming years, nothing too aggressive yet as they're too young.
Ideally something relaunchable, short reach, would rather stick to inflatables
3m Airush One is on the top of the list right now. Start without a harness on a light day.
Rather not get another foil trainer, I'll bring them to the water eventually.
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Postby knotwindy » Mon Dec 28, 2020 4:02 pm
Ozone makes a 2.5 & 4 m called the Uno. One strut, depowerable, relaunchable, uses almost any 4 equal line bar. Might look into it for more details.
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Postby Janus » Mon Dec 28, 2020 4:08 pm
It would not tick all your boxes.. give it a thought..
but for me it is a no brainer (my son started kiting at that age too) get a Peak4 for on the snow and if you want to use it on the water too I would suggest a Viron 6m or 8m
The Viron on the water is very easy, no lift and has a very good relaunch.
The Peak4 is also nice for water use if; it's a knee deep practice area and if there is space for downwind session on for example a skim board.. (My son started at 8 years with an open cell 2 liner on a skim.. will never forget his joyfull yelling when skimming down wind)
Open cell & Peak4 has an advantage; when there is "trouble" the problem is easily solved when the gear is in the water.. no out of control looping kite.
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Postby jakemoore » Mon Dec 28, 2020 4:22 pm
For kids you need smaller kites that fly in less wind rather than working for 80 kg adults as storm kites. I’ve flown some tiny kites that just don’t work under 20 knots even on land.
Others work well as a trainer but buckle under load like the Ozone trainer.
Small Naish Boxers are superb and what I have my kids on now. My youngest is 13 but they all started when your kids age. Boxer is easy and fun to fly down to 10 knots. Lofty enough to get a kiteboarding experience but not too punishing in a mistake. Relaunch is among the very best of kites.
For land riding snow skate and buggy you really can’t beat a Peak or other single skin for a beginner. Good price, very durable, easy and fun to fly.
The other big consideration for kids is managing a bar. The chicken loop takes too much bar throw for short arms. When my kids were under 10 we were using a custom bar with Wichard replacing chicken loop and a very long depower throw. They had to climb up the center line a little if they dropped the bar. The trade off is near total depower on dropping bar. We spent a fair amount of time drilling dropping bar and activating release. I would consider something like the BRM bars if I was doing it today. Otherwise some other chicken loop replacement like the PKS kiss loops or similar.
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Postby windfreak74 » Mon Dec 28, 2020 5:00 pm
my 2 cents!
i bought a 2,5 ozone for my little 7year old girl, 22 kg at the time on 20 meter lines.
to fast for her reflexes! at times right down suicidal.
too small means too fast even in shorter lines.its to much on or off!
i bought a 4 meter and use 10 meter lines. pull on center lines is steadier for keeping line tension and smaller lines mean smaller wind window and less scary yanks!
increase line as dexterity and reflexes grow!
altogether a much better package.
buy a small gong unik! very good value!
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Postby Kristan » Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:05 pm
Blade Tiny Beast was developed as kite for kids.
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Postby Repete09 » Mon Dec 28, 2020 11:32 pm
We also use an Uno 4sqm for our 8yr old son. His weight is around 30kg
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