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North Navigator Issue when flagging

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:49 pm
by Papiloko
Hi Guys,

Today I dropped my kite on the surf, when I tried to flag the kite didn't fully flag and had plenty of power.

After someone on the beach helped me secure it, I went to inspect why the kite didn't flag, and there was a knot in the lines caused by a plastic tube, which I don't know where it was originally. I have attached the image. this bit of plastic is in the safety line, no idea how this created a knot but it was the main reason my kite didn't fully flagged... any help from North Navigator bar owners would be helpful..


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Re: North Navigator Issue when flagging

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:48 pm
by gmb13
That plastic tube is the stopper and should be up against the end of the first length of the 12m Front lines before the 10m extension starts.

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Gunnar

Re: North Navigator Issue when flagging

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:51 pm
by mattaiken MYS NKB
Confirming Gunnar's post the plastic piece is a stopper that runs on the first 12m line extension. Talking with the team we're unsure how the stopper can cause a knot in the front lines. Can you share a photo of the knot? Our only thought would be some sort of freakish knot occurring when your kite was tumbled.

Re: North Navigator Issue when flagging

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:53 pm
by Papiloko
mattaiken MYS NKB wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:51 pm
Confirming Gunnar's post the plastic piece is a stopper that runs on the first 12m line extension. Talking with the team we're unsure how the stopper can cause a knot in the front lines. Can you share a photo of the knot? Our only thought would be some sort of freakish knot occurring when your kite was tumbled.
Thanks for your reply, I did not take photos of the knot, but you are probably right maybe with the tumbles the knot got created at that point. at least now I know I need to push it back all the way to end of that line.

Re: North Navigator Issue when flagging

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:56 am
by Kiter_from_Germany
mattaiken MYS NKB wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:51 pm
Confirming Gunnar's post the plastic piece is a stopper that runs on the first 12m line extension. Talking with the team we're unsure how the stopper can cause a knot in the front lines. Can you share a photo of the knot? Our only thought would be some sort of freakish knot occurring when your kite was tumbled.
Why using this plastic shit at all?
A double sleeve does the trick (preventing slipping through safety system) :
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Re: North Navigator Issue when flagging

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:55 pm
by mattaiken MYS NKB
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Why using this plastic shit at all?
A double sleeve does the trick (preventing slipping through safety system) :

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It's to prevent the knot from getting beat up with repeated powered up safety release (example school setting, beginner, etc)

Re: North Navigator Issue when flagging

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:28 pm
by Kiter_from_Germany
mattaiken MYS NKB wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:55 pm
Why using this plastic shit at all?
A double sleeve does the trick (preventing slipping through safety system) :

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It's to prevent the knot from getting beat up with repeated powered up safety release (example school setting, beginner, etc)
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haha, ok...
if you are able to have a safety event and have still load on the line after 11m slip, you are an artist, not a beginner :naughty:
To be honest: the sharp plastic will put much more stress (=wear) on the sleeve, by just being there, I assume.
So for me, I just use double sleeve and good...