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Re: Opinions wanted, is it better to self land in strong winds by punching out from 12 or 3/9??

Postby knotwindy » Sun Feb 07, 2021 6:53 pm

Done it both ways quite a few times and have noticed no difference as to safety or kite ‘damage’ possibilities as long as there is clear space downwind. Either works fine.

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Re: Opinions wanted, is it better to self land in strong winds by punching out from 12 or 3/9??

Postby RadDrDuke » Mon Feb 08, 2021 8:06 pm

I do this all the time. Side of the wind window for sure, about 4 feet above the ground. If you have a single front-line flag system have that line closest to the ground. You then pull your safety and run upwind. The kite will almost always just flip upside down (u-shape) and sit in place perfectly. I have done this probably 100 times with my airush ultra.

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Re: Opinions wanted, is it better to self land in strong winds by punching out from 12 or 3/9??

Postby Hugh2 » Tue Feb 09, 2021 1:27 pm

plummet wrote:
Sun Feb 07, 2021 6:47 pm
Edge of the window is the way to go.

The safest way is to do it in the water so the kite lands in the water. Ideally a small white wash washes over the kite.
Best not try that at Holbaai! Your kite and then you will get severely trashed. The shorebreak there is usually monstrous.

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Re: Opinions wanted, is it better to self land in strong winds by punching out from 12 or 3/9??

Postby plummet » Wed Feb 10, 2021 9:04 am

Hugh2 wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 1:27 pm
plummet wrote:
Sun Feb 07, 2021 6:47 pm
Edge of the window is the way to go.

The safest way is to do it in the water so the kite lands in the water. Ideally a small white wash washes over the kite.
Best not try that at Holbaai! Your kite and then you will get severely trashed. The shorebreak there is usually monstrous.
If the option is death or trashed kite, I would choose trashed kite everytime.

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Re: Opinions wanted, is it better to self land in strong winds by punching out from 12 or 3/9??

Postby Hugh2 » Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:51 pm

plummet wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 9:04 am
Hugh2 wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 1:27 pm
plummet wrote:
Sun Feb 07, 2021 6:47 pm
Edge of the window is the way to go.

The safest way is to do it in the water so the kite lands in the water. Ideally a small white wash washes over the kite.
Best not try that at Holbaai! Your kite and then you will get severely trashed. The shorebreak there is usually monstrous.
If the option is death or trashed kite, I would choose trashed kite everytime.
No need to choose death, there is a wide open beach to land kite on.

One day when this virus problem is done it would be great to have you and some of the other frequent posters and obviously competent kiters here come to Cape Town, as many already do. I know Toby declines, however.

AND, if my shoulder ever recovers, I still hope to visit some of the places I read about here, Caribbean, Brazil, Peru, NZ, Australia, and South Pacific islands, and various places in Europe, and Mauritius, and.....

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Re: Opinions wanted, is it better to self land in strong winds by punching out from 12 or 3/9??

Postby plummet » Thu Feb 11, 2021 5:43 pm

Hugh2 wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:51 pm
plummet wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 9:04 am
Hugh2 wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 1:27 pm


Best not try that at Holbaai! Your kite and then you will get severely trashed. The shorebreak there is usually monstrous.
If the option is death or trashed kite, I would choose trashed kite everytime.
No need to choose death, there is a wide open beach to land kite on.

One day when this virus problem is done it would be great to have you and some of the other frequent posters and obviously competent kiters here come to Cape Town, as many already do. I know Toby declines, however.

AND, if my shoulder ever recovers, I still hope to visit some of the places I read about here, Caribbean, Brazil, Peru, NZ, Australia, and South Pacific islands, and various places in Europe, and Mauritius, and.....
One day I would like to go to cape town. When my kids have left home in around 8 years time.

It depends on the level of overpowered. lets say 30-40 knots on a 6m. No problem. Walk to the beach and punch the safety. However. 50+ knots on the same 6m and when you punch to safety on the beach you cant walk the line to the kite. There is still too much pull with the kite flagged. You risk degloving your fingers if you try and walk the line. The thing to do then is punch out in the water, swamp the kite so you can run to the kite while its still swamped.

I agree a nasty beach break does not make this easy.
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Re: Opinions wanted, is it better to self land in strong winds by punching out from 12 or 3/9??

Postby Hugh2 » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:12 pm

Cape Town almost never gets above 40, and I've only been in 50 twice, once luckily sitting on my kite to hold it down, once dumping it behind trees. If I am still kiting in 8 years, which would mean at age 73, then I'd love to show you some of Cape Town's kiting haunts. And they are much more than just Table Bay.

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Re: Opinions wanted, is it better to self land in strong winds by punching out from 12 or 3/9??

Postby Puetz » Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:22 am

grigorib wrote:
Fri Feb 05, 2021 4:53 pm
Don’t touch QR or flagout line. Drop kite on water near the edge of wind window and pull it to yourself by one of front lines. Never warps line over anything you don’t want to cut off. Wear gloves to hold lines better.

What do you mean “punch out”?
... 'punch out' is different way of saying 'releasing' the kite to safety line

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Re: Opinions wanted, is it better to self land in strong winds by punching out from 12 or 3/9??

Postby Adventure Logs » Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:40 am

On a foil, edge of the wind window and if you have the roof, while running upwind to help reduce the kite twisting over the ground. At 12, you’ll put too much stress on the lines as it falls through the power zone and have a greater chance of stressing/breaking a bridle line.

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Re: Opinions wanted, is it better to self land in strong winds by punching out from 12 or 3/9??

Postby Matteo V » Wed Feb 17, 2021 3:44 pm

Adventure Logs wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:40 am
On a foil, edge of the wind window and if you have the roof, while running upwind to help reduce the kite twisting over the ground. At 12, you’ll put too much stress on the lines as it falls through the power zone and have a greater chance of stressing/breaking a bridle line.
I use the brake handle all the time to land a foil kite from 12 o'clock, and have for years. Have you broken a bridle line or connection doing this?


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