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Best/simplest action camera/software and mounts for kiting

Postby jumptheshark » Wed Mar 03, 2021 3:59 pm

Looking into the simplest way to capture some riding on video and want the experience of the group to help me figure out a minimalist set up.

Goals are to capture the riding from relatable perspectives with minimal hardware and relatively easy to use and run software. Not looking to spend hours editing.

If you could trim down your filming set up to a single camera a lap top and a few mounts what would you use.

Thanks.

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Re: Best/simplest action camera/software and mounts for kiting

Postby tkaraszewski » Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:22 pm

jumptheshark wrote:
Wed Mar 03, 2021 3:59 pm
Looking into the simplest way to capture some riding on video and want the experience of the group to help me figure out a minimalist set up.

Goals are to capture the riding from relatable perspectives with minimal hardware and relatively easy to use and run software. Not looking to spend hours editing.

If you could trim down your filming set up to a single camera a lap top and a few mounts what would you use.

Thanks.
I'm gonna use two example videos. In this first one, I have a GoPro MAX on a Mentese line mount and only edited with the GoPro software in maybe 15 minutes. This is pretty easy and lets you get some useful perspectives.



But my *favorite* is this angle:



This is a regular camera being held by a friend on the beach. It's better than any angle you can get filming yourself, and you can use literally any camera with a little bit of zoom, and edit with any software.
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Re: Best/simplest action camera/software and mounts for kiting

Postby jakemoore » Wed Mar 03, 2021 4:48 pm

I would also go with GoPro Max. The best thing about 360 is being able to choose framing after shooting. There is too much garbage footage with a regular gopro. If something cool happens you have to be lucky or really really good at film to get it in frame.

Choose a line mount, a helmet mount, and a pole that disappears between the two fisheye lenses. 1 meter is the ideal pole length and your best bet may be to make one e.g. out of a cheap CF tube from ebay or ali-express. The line and helmet mounts are better for getting an image of your friends but you have to ride really close. If they get nervous with you 1-2 meters away then they get tiny too fast.

While the software is relatively easy compared to other video software it is still a pain. I think editing video is always going to be a pain. So I probably only film maybe 1 in 40 sessions. And most filmed sessions I may take only a frame grab photo or two rather than a clip.
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Re: Best/simplest action camera/software and mounts for kiting

Postby Wind Runner » Wed Mar 03, 2021 5:00 pm

tkaraszewski wrote:
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I'm gonna use two example videos. In this first one, I have a GoPro MAX on a Mentese line mount and only edited with the GoPro software in maybe 15 minutes. This is pretty easy and lets you get some useful perspectives.
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Re: Best/simplest action camera/software and mounts for kiting

Postby leeuwen » Wed Mar 03, 2021 5:27 pm

Be aware that line mounts can interfere with safety systems and also check when crossing the lines (e.g. looping the kite) it doesn't get caught in the line mount.
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Re: Best/simplest action camera/software and mounts for kiting

Postby edt » Wed Mar 03, 2021 6:32 pm

This is something you have to figure out for yourself. Some people love the line mount perspective. Others love the mouth mount, while others like the head mount. My favorite is bite the foamy for point of view shots because you can take out of your mouth for other angles. Then after you get the shot just throw it around your head by some kind of lanyard. I really don't liked the line mount view so I never use it but others like it a lot. That's why this is something you have to figure out for yourself. There's no best answer. For the software I highly recommend avoiding all the gopro software that comes with it and stick to stuff like sony vegas pro (that's what I use) maybe Imovie or maybe adobe premier. Even the built in windows movie maker is easier to use than the gopro software.
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Re: Best/simplest action camera/software and mounts for kiting

Postby Slappysan » Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:02 pm

As a fellow Peak user I can warn you that kite (obviously) mounts and line mounts are out of the question.
So that leaves you with mouth/pole/backpack option.

Personally I use a GoPro Session 5 in the GoPro mouth mount in "wide" mode (I will try and use "linear" for filming other people though).
I do all my editing on an iPad Pro using iMovie. Takes about 45 minutes to cut a 8 min video from 1.5h of footage. Mind you it would probably take over an hour to cut it down to a 3 min video.

Anytime you pump on the hydrofoil the footage becomes pretty unusable though as it'll induce motion sickness.

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Re: Best/simplest action camera/software and mounts for kiting

Postby jumptheshark » Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:31 pm

360 makes sense to me. I wanna focus on riding not filming. Not keen on anything in my mouth either! Just have the camera along for the most part. Maybe a pole mount for a few perspectives and figure the video out later.

Hey Slappy, no line mount on a Peak? even if it’s windy?

Thanks very much.

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Re: Best/simplest action camera/software and mounts for kiting

Postby Slappysan » Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:10 am

jumptheshark wrote:
Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:31 pm
Hey Slappy, no line mount on a Peak? even if it’s windy?
My smallest Peak 4 is 5m so for me it's 100% a no go. With the smaller sizes it might not be such a big deal, but it will have some effect on the kite for sure.
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Re: Best/simplest action camera/software and mounts for kiting

Postby longwhitecloud » Thu Mar 04, 2021 8:17 am

a mate and your iphone
chop the clips in the iphone (built in)
select them in quik app and export

an edit takes minutes

If you are going to edit on a computer Davinchi Resolve is free and has 10 000 tutorials in youtube and is easy to use. Most of the pro editors I know use this now.

Always something going wrong with my gopros... battery fail , filled with water, water droplets, on wrong resolution, thought it was filming - it wasnt.. card filled up... pita.


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