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Re: Seaspiracy - documentary

Postby Bille » Fri Apr 02, 2021 11:45 am

Huib wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 10:26 am

So easy for your self for doing nothing and keep on eating meat and fish.
Not making babies is what your solution is. You really think that is a good solution? By the time the world population has been reduced to 4 billion people by not making babies, our planet has long been destroyed.
And who is going to take care of you when you are elderly and there are no young people left?

I can see a 1:1 reproduction rate ; so 2 babies per couple. I have no idea
why it's the poor people ,that make the most number of babies ; when they
really can't afford any ?


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Re: Seaspiracy - documentary

Postby Matteo V » Fri Apr 02, 2021 2:25 pm

Bille wrote:
Fri Apr 02, 2021 11:45 am
I have no idea why it's the poor people ,that make the most number of babies ; when they really can't afford any ?

Statistical genetics.

The most successful approach to ensuring a genetic lineage when lower IQ, is to have lots of offspring. This increases the chance for anomolously above average intelligence (average of the parents) in at least one of the offspring, so that a few of a larger number survive.

The most successful approach to ensuring a genetic lineage when higher IQ, is to use that intellect to ensure the survival of a more manageable smaller number of offspring who will typically have the average intelligence of the higher IQ parents . This number is more in line with what natural resources can provide to those offspring to ensure a higher survival rate to a smaller number.

Also of note is the proof that exists that the female passes on intelligence traits, while the male does not have any significant influence on intelligence of offspring (but does pass on other traits like emotional control).

If you run the numbers prior to 200 years ago, you will find that with reproduction vs mortality prior to reproduction, things evened out. Run the numbers in the modern era, and you will find alarming results as mortality in both groups has dropped to near zero, even though reproduction is still higher in lower IQ groups.
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Re: Seaspiracy - documentary

Postby knotwindy » Fri Apr 02, 2021 4:31 pm

First of all, as Carlin said, the planet will be fine. Humans however, not so much. The planet was fine before we got here and will be fine long after we’re gone.
Regardless of the species, whether virus, bacteria, weasel, vulture or human an increase in food supply leads to an increase in population. A decreased food supply leads to a decrease in population. Nothing else comes even close in relationship cause & effect. As long as populations are made of stuff, more stuff will lead to more population. No way around it. Although there may be an overlap between weasels/vultures and lawyers.
We, as humans have been conducting this experiment for at least 12,000 years. Every year for 12,000 times we have grown more food and, surprisingly, we have more people. Huh. Maybe, just maybe, we should try not growing less food and causing death in large numbers but just the same amount to stop the growth. You know, just to see if it works. Just once, maybe?
Poverty exists not because we can’t feed the poor but because we can’t satisfy the rich. We might have the time to Start small and stop the population growth before we try to decrease it.
Although we might not have enough sense, time or empathy to make anything work. We may have already pasted the tipping point.
Rant over. Have a nice day.
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