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brighamj
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Postby brighamj » Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:33 pm
Have any of you ridden both of these kites, the Dice and Pivot, in a size around 8-10m? The current model year is ideal, of course. I’d really appreciate some insight into the similarities and differences between the two. Thanks in advance!
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Dirk
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Postby Dirk » Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:23 am
I ride the Pivot but have never ridden the Dice. However, you are comparing different kite concepts, hybrid-c shape and delta-ish. The common pairing would be Dash vs Dice and Pivot vs Evo.
It starts with the wind range: 8m Pivot is comparable with 9m Dice, etc.
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Postby edt » Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:22 am
Choose the dice if you are doing handle passes. The pivot is friendlier for free riding boosting and kiteloop. The dice tugs quite a bit on loops. As said above the kites serve different markets. Evo vs pivot is a better comparison. Hopefully I get to demo all the 2021 gear this year as covid winds down. Haven't tried the new evo or dash
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brighamj
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Postby brighamj » Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:17 pm
edt wrote:
Choose the dice if you are doing handle passes. The pivot is friendlier for free riding boosting and kiteloop. The dice tugs quite a bit on loops. As said above the kites serve different markets. Evo vs pivot is a better comparison. Hopefully I get to demo all the 2021 gear this year as covid winds down. Haven't tried the new evo or dash
Dirk wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:23 am
I ride the Pivot but have never ridden the Dice. However, you are comparing different kite concepts, hybrid-c shape and delta-ish. The common pairing would be Dash vs Dice and Pivot vs Evo.
It starts with the wind range: 8m Pivot is comparable with 9m Dice, etc.
Thank you both. This makes sense. I appreciate the feedback.
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vakiter
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Postby vakiter » Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:00 am
i have ridden both in 10m. i liked both. i like pivot better. its a easier to jump. feels like it has more camber. both have nice feel, quick, light bar pressure, all-around. actually makes sense to me to compare them. im can barely loop in a jump, but the pivot pulls pretty good i thought.
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Postby brighamj » Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:45 am
vakiter wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:00 am
i have ridden both in 10m. i liked both. i like pivot better. its a easier to jump. feels like it has more camber. both have nice feel, quick, light bar pressure, all-around. actually makes sense to me to compare them. im can barely loop in a jump, but the pivot pulls pretty good i thought.
Thank you!
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