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What is with prices?

Postby Dub » Fri Apr 23, 2021 11:40 am

I took a long break from kitesurf, maybe 7 or 8 years and I stopped paying attention to the industry. I'm back kiting again and back loving it but in the time I've been away prices seem to have gone through the roof. I expect kites to be pricey but its everything now - bar, harnesses, boards.

Back when I started kitesurfing, we were always told kitesurfing equipment was expensive because of the low volumes of sales. My local spots must have 10x the number of riders now. Quality of gear has improved/refined but $$$.

Is gear lasting twice as long?

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Re: What is with prices??

Postby Bain » Fri Apr 23, 2021 11:49 am

Just like the price of everything else really. Everything is through the roof.

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Re: What is with prices?

Postby Toby » Fri Apr 23, 2021 12:26 pm

But the second hand gear is much better than before !

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Re: What is with prices?

Postby NotsoShort » Fri Apr 23, 2021 12:57 pm

Gone the same way as windsurfing. Probably will burst the same way aswell

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Re: What is with prices?

Postby leeuwen » Fri Apr 23, 2021 12:58 pm

Based on just inflation prices would have gone up by about 15% in the last 8 years.
Next to this if you compare the most expensive options there certainly has been a giant increase in costs but also material/equipment options.
Just some things that were not available 8 years ago:
* Carbon hardshell harness
* Aluula kites
* Bars with back-line trim/auto rotate and click-in safeties (some of these options where there but they are now available with more brands, usually there is a basic and fancy option)

I guess if you look at good bargain kites (so last season) and not going for the fancy stuff it probably is around inflation numbers.
Although it seems that covid has/is hitting production on all kinds of gear making less stock available so it is probably harder to find something with a great deal in the last year or so.

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Re: What is with prices?

Postby Kamikuza » Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:12 pm

NotsoShort wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 12:57 pm
Gone the same way as windsurfing. Probably will burst the same way aswell
Isn't everyone with dormant T-rex genes now winging?

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Re: What is with prices?

Postby Hugh2 » Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:33 pm

I paid $1000 for a miserable C-kite, a 13m Slingshot Diesel, about 13 years ago. I paid $1500 for a 10m 2020 Naish Pivot last year. The Pivot is worth 10X what that Diesel was worth. Absolute piece of crap, used perhaps five times before I switched to Best Waroos.

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Re: What is with prices?

Postby Toby » Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:48 pm

Maybe with that winging fashion good used gear available?

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Re: What is with prices?

Postby dango94 » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:18 pm

To start from scratch is expensive, true. I remember a friend which bought his first equipment for roughly 6kUSD in 2017/2018. 3 kites, board, harness, bar. Mostly Cabrinha.

This is a huge investment in my mind.

If you buy used or previous year stuff sometime you can make a deal up to 30% off. Or you replace your most worn stuff year after year. That applies to my situation.

Regardless, I think some arguments of the manufactures are somewhat not really true. Okay, you might spend 40h to sew a kite, create the bladders and bridle. But this is mostly done in asia where labor is cheap. What might be true is development, create prototypes, get feedback and include this into a new version takes a lot of time and effort. As well travel and people you have to pay for.
But a lot of the cost might also margin for the distribution and marketing. These fancy videos from all over the world, top of the notch kiters performing with the gear and so forth are expensive.

Simple answer might be, as long as the consumers are willing to pay for it, the prices will go up year after year - till they are rejected.

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Re: What is with prices?

Postby knotwindy » Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:12 pm

Try to make all the the equipment you need at home yourself and then tell us how much it’s worth to you. Yea, it cost more now, so ?


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