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Experiences different bars on Naish Pivot

Postby leanderme » Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:49 pm

Hi,
I‘m no longer happy with the Torque bar for various reasons and I’m now looking for a suitable replacement.

I know that almost any low V bar fits, but I would like to open a topic on the experience the community has made with different bars on the Naish (Pivot).

The depower throw on the Naish torque is quiet large and I rather would not like to loose any high end. I’ve learned that the Duotone Click bar and the North navigator are suitable replacements. But I am worried about safety issue reports with the Click bar (when not cleaned) and the 22M lines of the Navigator bar.

Hence the question: What are your experiences with using different bars on Naish kites?

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Re: Experiences different bars on Naish Pivot

Postby tautologies » Fri Apr 23, 2021 7:24 pm

Any bar with equal length back and front lines should work fine...as long as it has reasonable throw. I guess if the front lines are a high Y it might have some impact, but bars aren't that different. Make sure it doesn't oversheet.

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Re: Experiences different bars on Naish Pivot

Postby Kitedicted » Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:13 pm

I've only used one bar but first I had like 30 cm of throw on and it's not enough so I modified it to 50 cm like the torque. I think any low v bar will be fine just get at least 40 to 45 cm throw

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Re: Experiences different bars on Naish Pivot

Postby Dirk » Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:19 pm

The new Torque 2 bar will come out soon. It will have 22m plus 2m extensions. I am using my 8m Pivot on 22m and I am very happy with it. I ride my 11m on 24m lines but it also works well on 22m. You can add extensions to any bar to get your desired line length.

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Re: Experiences different bars on Naish Pivot

Postby tautologies » Fri Apr 23, 2021 11:39 pm

Dirk wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:19 pm
The new Torque 2 bar will come out soon. It will have 22m plus 2m extensions. I am using my 8m Pivot on 22m and I am very happy with it. I ride my 11m on 24m lines but it also works well on 22m. You can add extensions to any bar to get your desired line length.
Not 20+4m?
22m + 2m extensions sound quite nice actually. I usually have a bar with 20m and a bar with 24m lines ready to go, but the 20s often feel just short. I notice this mostly because I use the 24s so much more.

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Re: Experiences different bars on Naish Pivot

Postby leanderme » Sat Apr 24, 2021 5:10 am

Thank you for the helpful replies so far! I have noticed that the torque has a far more bigger trim cleat range (probably because Naish kites not having 3 pigtail length) than other bars such as the Cabrinha bars.

Did you had any issues with overpowering too soon?

Also it is great news that the Torque 2 is about to be released!

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Re: Experiences different bars on Naish Pivot

Postby Dirk » Sat Apr 24, 2021 5:49 am

I have pre-ordered two (the two different sizes ) and that’s what it said on the order sheet.

I use 2m extensions on the current 20m Torque Bar for my 8m Pivot and I find that ideal.

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Re: Experiences different bars on Naish Pivot

Postby Surferduuude » Mon Apr 26, 2021 9:20 am

I'm using an Airush Core Cleat bar for my Naish kites. Bar throw and trim is pretty much the same as the Torque BTB I also have. I just had to shorten the front lines one knot on the trim above the cleat.
You can lay them next to each other and measure total trim, and if it's less than the Torque you just have to decide if you want to match the full power or depower end of the trim scale.


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