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Re: Overweight Kiters

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:01 pm
by McLovin
Matteo V wrote:
Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:50 pm
My preffered adjectives are "pleasantly plump", "BBK (big beautiful kiter), and "extra flotation/insulation positive". Please respect them and me.
Haha, well as a fellow insulation positive BBK - I learned at 125kg / 1.87m think the most important tool is a BIG board mine was a Crazy Fly All-Around 145x48 which helped a ton. Granted I learned in the gorge so the higher winds and comparatively smaller like 8/9/10m kites were a bit easier to manage.

In terms of time on the water, my sessions in season (shorter in winter) are typically about 2.5-3 hours unless it's crazy good conditions could stretch out to the 4-5 hour mega session. When teaching newbies they will typically get mentally exhausted before physical exhaustion.

I had a good experience in my early lessons when my instructor noticed this and gave me a "break" just fly the kite here at the edge of the water for a bit. But seems like lesson blocks should be no more than 2 hours for efficiency and safety. There is a lot going on in the mind of a new kiter vs. how comfortable we are now holding a kite, try to remember that energy it takes when one's mind in on alert...

GO BIG or GO HOME!

Mc

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Re: Overweight Kiters

Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:46 pm
by Hugh2
You guys are being trolled. OP claims to be opening a kite school in a year or two. RIGHT! And wants to know what a 2-hour session is like for an experienced kiter. If OP does not already know the answer to that question no way they are capable of opening a kite school.

Re: Overweight Kiters

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 11:23 am
by Bille
BatmanIsABeast wrote:
Mon Apr 26, 2021 2:10 am
So I am looking to start a kite school in next year or two. I would like to know what overweight kiters found to be the most difficult thing to overcome, what did the school do wrong or right. What do you experience when riding as well? Does the kitetend to fold on you while kiting or board starting? If you are an experienced kiter, do you find the sport to be a pretty good workout after a 2 hour session for you guys? How worn are you guys, seasoned kiters, after a full session?

Thanks
@ Hugh2

I don't think, there's any trolling, going on here ; seemed to me, like
a fairly straight forward question , (directed toward heavier kiters) .

Bille

Re: Overweight Kiters

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:32 pm
by Matteo V
Hugh2 wrote:
Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:46 pm
You guys are being trolled.
Eh.... a stopped clock is correct twice a day.... and a troll asking where the bathroom is, has a good question.

Re: Overweight Kiters

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 10:58 pm
by Delta99
OP, You've got some good input here. I'm 100 kg and 194 cm. I support inputs:

17 sqm kite
145-150 cm boards with large bindings
Don't use the handle to put on the board. Must train on land before like one poster wrote. Hold the binding and work diagonally. Wiggle into pads alternately kicking left right towards the sky.

Good luck

Re: Overweight Kiters

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 10:21 am
by Herman
When you are showing them how to put a board on, if you want the exercise or you have a pair of EBBK teaching the waterstart by hand pulling on land is useful to demonstrate how important it is to reduce your turning moment by scrunching up and driving your head over you knees. I used to demonstrate this by showing that even a small girl could roll me up. If they can’t be rolled up on land they ain’t going to waterstart imho. Better off in a strong buggy unless happy with body drag sessions. If they are committed they will get themselves fit.

You also have to bare in mind that rescue boats, generally, don’t have derricks, take a ladder.

Re: Overweight Kiters

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 1:32 pm
by Toby
Agreed, weight needs big kites.

The more power you have for learning, the easier things are.
Imagine being underpowered...would you be able to ride?

So, give them power to ride!

Get an instructor with weight...he will be able to handle big kites for his students and know the needs.

Re: Overweight Kiters

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 2:16 pm
by Herman
Should also have mentioned it is easy to take it too seriously because it is our passion. Possibly the most important thing for many is to make it safe and perhaps above all fun, especially if you are dealing with holiday makers. Having an enjoyable experience is arguably more important than the learning imho. If you can achieve the two hand in hand so much the better!