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'I was just delighted to help': Kite surfer rescues swimmer in difficulty in West Cork

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Re: 'I was just delighted to help': Kite surfer rescues swimmer in difficulty in West Cork

Postby PabloQ » Tue Apr 27, 2021 1:15 pm

The first rule of a rescuer is not to become rescued.
As has been said, the panic in the person to be rescued is crucial when it comes to intervening, and the skills of the rescuer as well as the weak points of his equipment. In this case it went well and I'm glad

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Re: 'I was just delighted to help': Kite surfer rescues swimmer in difficulty in West Cork

Postby Matteo V » Tue Apr 27, 2021 1:39 pm

Self inflating throwable life ring?

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Re: 'I was just delighted to help': Kite surfer rescues swimmer in difficulty in West Cork

Postby Topaz » Tue Apr 27, 2021 5:20 pm

I rescued a struggling beginner kiter once. He had dropped his kite and lost his board. No life jacket. He was struggling but not in panic. He grabbed my shoulders and immediately calmed down. Then I told him to grab my harness towing handle and we slowly dragged to the shore. No big deal.

I didn't felt at any time that there was a risk for me.

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Re: 'I was just delighted to help': Kite surfer rescues swimmer in difficulty in West Cork

Postby Bille » Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:52 pm

Havre wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:37 pm
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I can't see it being mentioned but I really hope the kiter got a fine for breaking Covid-19 protocol. Keep your distance is the most important thing.
WHAT ?? :o

You would rather see a person drown ; than break covid protocol , by saving them ?

I really hope i misunderstood that ?

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Re: 'I was just delighted to help': Kite surfer rescues swimmer in difficulty in West Cork

Postby Havre » Tue Apr 27, 2021 10:06 pm

Quite standard practice these days. In Norway the official advice is now not to give CPR to anyone unless you know they haven't got Covid-19. Who am I to question official advice? If you go for a swim at least wear a mask.

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Re: 'I was just delighted to help': Kite surfer rescues swimmer in difficulty in West Cork

Postby edt » Tue Apr 27, 2021 11:39 pm

We get dozens of drownings on lake michigan every year. If a kiter is near we will save them nearly 100% of the time. We are uniquely situated to save lives being on top of the water we can see the downing victim and being fast we can get them before they go under.

Get off your board and then hand one end to the victim. Remember don't go near them with your control bar as that bar looks like heaven and life and everything to them. They will grab it if you let them. You hold onto one end of the board and tow them in. If they are unconscious or too weak grab them wherever you can and get to shore quick.

A lot of times swimmers will go under at a beach far away or on the other side of the sea wall and we can't get to them. At this point the rescue guys come out with their boats but it's always too late if the boats rescue a drowner. It takes 5 minutes to get the boat in the water let alone get to the drowner. We are the ones that have to help. Surfers can help a little bit they lack power and can't tow an unconscious body in at more than a snails pace. We are the ones that have to do it.

Anyway do what you can. It might not make the newspapers but if you see someone drowning you got to try and save them.

The people that drown generally can't swim at all. If their feet can't touch bottom they are going under. There are a bunch of really weak rips where I kite less than 1/2 knot and that's strong enough to drown people every year because they can't really swim at all.

This isn't about being at hero this is something every kiter will eventually do if you kite long enough. Give them one end of the twintip that will keep their head above water and tow them in.

Locals will be swimming in the rips walk on a slippery sea wall or going in the overhead water and out of town people will see that and do the same not realizing they are going to drown because they can't swim.

I remember last year a lady slipped fell in started to drown and her husband immediately jumped in to "save her" and started to drown too. Neither could swim. For the man it was a close thing he went unconscious immediately and kiters towed him in. It was lucky they didn't both die as they were all the way out at the lighthouse when they went in. The newspapers the next day credited local rescue operations for the save no mention of kiters which is fine by me. The watermen know that's good enough.

Every year all over the world kiters save hundreds from drowning it just doesn't make the paper a lot of the time.
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Re: 'I was just delighted to help': Kite surfer rescues swimmer in difficulty in West Cork

Postby GTC » Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:07 am

Havre wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 10:06 pm
Quite standard practice these days. In Norway the official advice is now not to give CPR to anyone unless you know they haven't got Covid-19. Who am I to question official advice? If you go for a swim at least wear a mask.
You weren't the smartest guy in the class, where you?

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Re: 'I was just delighted to help': Kite surfer rescues swimmer in difficulty in West Cork

Postby Bille » Wed Apr 28, 2021 6:57 am

GTC wrote:
Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:07 am
Havre wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 10:06 pm
Quite standard practice these days. In Norway the official advice is now not to give CPR to anyone unless you know they haven't got Covid-19. Who am I to question official advice? If you go for a swim at least wear a mask.
You weren't the smartest guy in the class, where you?
Havre is a smart guy ; i suspect that he isn't very human though. :(

I needed CPR, in the mid 80's ; i was dead, from a HG crash, and a
lifeguard supervisor brought me back to life. I owe Karma one, for
that day ; so covid wouldn't scare me away, from at-least trying to
save someone. Besides --- i already had my second pfizer shot ; odds
are i may get sick from covid, but not die.

Bille

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Re: 'I was just delighted to help': Kite surfer rescues swimmer in difficulty in West Cork

Postby andylc » Wed Apr 28, 2021 8:14 am

Earlier description sounds sensible although in difficult conditions I wonder how easy it would be to hold onto your board with someone on the other end, and drag in with only 1 hand to control the kite. In fairness it shouldn’t be massively different from bodydragging.

Havre I can only assume you mistakenly think you are being funny.

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Re: 'I was just delighted to help': Kite surfer rescues swimmer in difficulty in West Cork

Postby Havre » Wed Apr 28, 2021 8:31 am

Bille wrote:
Wed Apr 28, 2021 6:57 am
GTC wrote:
Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:07 am
Havre wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 10:06 pm
Quite standard practice these days. In Norway the official advice is now not to give CPR to anyone unless you know they haven't got Covid-19. Who am I to question official advice? If you go for a swim at least wear a mask.
You weren't the smartest guy in the class, where you?
Havre is a smart guy ; i suspect that he isn't very human though. :(

I needed CPR, in the mid 80's ; i was dead, from a HG crash, and a
lifeguard supervisor brought me back to life. I owe Karma one, for
that day ; so covid wouldn't scare me away, from at-least trying to
save someone. Besides --- i already had my second pfizer shot ; odds
are i may get sick from covid, but not die.

Bille
For the record. I find the advice not to give someone CPR due to Covid-19 laughable. But I have been told I'm an idiot for questioning my Government so I am now just doing as I am told. I am "sure" there is a solid scientific evaluation behind not recommending to give CPR.


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