I own a Juice 15m 2020, has a great wind range, I can kite TT at 9 knots, I am 63 kg. My Juice is lighter than my Rebel 11m 2020.
If you are rich, think about the new Juice Dlab with Aluula
It funny how those who called out heresy tended to appear on the very wrong side of history
A smaller kite will most often be easier to go upwind with. There's a rule of thumb that the smaller the diameter of the leading edge, the easier it is to go upwind (obviously that's not an entirely universal truth). As for body dragging, that is true. You can't edge when body dragging, so can't force the kite to move forward in the wind window, so when overpowered you will be pulled downwind. That is not what I meant in the original post though. My example would be more of "it is easier for me to go upwind with the 18m2 in 16 knots, than it is in 10 knots". I find in the lower range of my kite, I can usually pretty much stay in the line to where I started, but it's harder to get ground upwind.Havre wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 12:19 pmI think "stating the opposite" in terms of being able to go upwind would be related to power (not sure). If you are slightly overpowered on a 17m (or similar) it is tougher to go upwind. Not anything different than going upwind with my 9m Enduro (with the right power) is easier than going upwind with my 12m Enduro (with the right power). When I'm really powered with my 17m I can just forget body dragging upwind if I lose my board.
This is exactly what I meant by it. A big kite can get powerful really fast. If by any means a beginner lives in an area where wind is usually blowing for a 15/17m2 (this is the most used kite in the area), then go for it. Here there are often times when it's blowing 12 and then in a moment it blows 18 knots for a couple of minutes etc. This might get scary for a beginner, who can't edge properly. A big kite is an expensive one, so it's better to get to know what are the potential pros and cons.Havre wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 12:19 pmDisagree on big kites for beginners. Obviously comes down to conditions a bit, but the kite I used the most as a beginner was my Zephyr. In 15-16 knots it is an excellent kite to learn on in my opinion (not sure if that is what the OP is after though). Only got to be a bit careful not getting overpowered.
That's quite an outdated view on foil kites.
Here I tend to disagree.