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Re: Duotone Dice 2022

Postby Mo » Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:36 am

The Dice SLS will be interesting in its big sizes, if it has that more fast feel like the smaller ones, then that will be a nice kite to have

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Re: Duotone Dice 2022

Postby wrogu » Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:31 pm

I had a go at 10m dice sls. Very stiff kite in the air. You can feel every gust on the bar, kite kind of does not deform at all. Makes me consider a new 9m. I am not so sure about larger kites ... but I have not tried one.
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Re: Duotone Dice 2022

Postby andikite » Mon Aug 30, 2021 3:53 pm

wrogu wrote:
Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:31 pm
I had a go at 10m dice sls. Very stiff kite in the air. You can feel every gust on the bar, kite kind of does not deform at all. Makes me consider a new 9m. I am not so sure about larger kites ... but I have not tried one.
Did you try it with clickbar 2022? Any change?

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Re: Duotone Dice 2022

Postby wrogu » Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:01 pm

andikite wrote:
Mon Aug 30, 2021 3:53 pm
wrogu wrote:
Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:31 pm
I had a go at 10m dice sls. Very stiff kite in the air. You can feel every gust on the bar, kite kind of does not deform at all. Makes me consider a new 9m. I am not so sure about larger kites ... but I have not tried one.
Did you try it with clickbar 2022? Any change?
Nope, on 2021 click. I would not expect changes tho. But who knows :) There were some pics floating with new colours I think.

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Re: Duotone Dice 2022

Postby Mo » Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:02 pm

andikite wrote:
Mon Aug 30, 2021 3:53 pm
wrogu wrote:
Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:31 pm
I had a go at 10m dice sls. Very stiff kite in the air. You can feel every gust on the bar, kite kind of does not deform at all. Makes me consider a new 9m. I am not so sure about larger kites ... but I have not tried one.
Did you try it with clickbar 2022? Any change?
For 2022, Duotone keep the same 2021 Click Bar without any changes.

Mo

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Re: Duotone Dice 2022

Postby alex85 » Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:22 pm

I think the launch of 2022 will be tomorrow.

Had the possibility to test 2022 10 m SLS vs 2021 10 m back to back for an afternoon (both on 24 meters lines).
The wind start at about 14-15 knots for an hour and than picks up to 24-25 knots: basically the entire range of the kite.
The kite looks smaller (not sure about that) for sure LE is a little bit thinner.
Basically is the same kite that flies a little bit further forward in the wind window and with a more rigid structure.
This translate in: even better feelings cause is more direct, more stable, more slack, catchs better after a loop, more height and more hangtime on jumps (but you have to be more accurate moving the kite during the jump), more range in high end (at 24 knots don't even depower the 2022 instead of a couple of cm on the 2021).

Believe me or not but, at least for the Dice, the change in construction materials improves the features of the kite without change the behavior.

I didn't plan to change my 2021 (I believe the biggest step for the Dice was when they has removed the pulleys) but this kite is another step forward and I think it worth the investement.
If you like Dice give it a try.
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Re: Duotone Dice 2022

Postby andikite » Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:17 pm

alex85 wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:22 pm
I think the launch of 2022 will be tomorrow.

Had the possibility to test 2022 10 m SLS vs 2021 10 m back to back for an afternoon (both on 24 meters lines).
The wind start at about 14-15 knots for an hour and than picks up to 24-25 knots: basically the entire range of the kite.
The kite looks smaller (not sure about that) for sure LE is a little bit thinner.
Basically is the same kite that flies a little bit further forward in the wind window and with a more rigid structure.
This translate in: even better feelings cause is more direct, more stable, more slack, catchs better after a loop, more height and more hangtime on jumps (but you have to be more accurate moving the kite during the jump), more range in high end (at 24 knots don't even depower the 2022 instead of a couple of cm on the 2021).

Believe me or not but, at least for the Dice, the change in construction materials improves the features of the kite without change the behavior.

I didn't plan to change my 2021 (I believe the biggest step for the Dice was when they has removed the pulleys) but this kite is another step forward and I think it worth the investement.
If you like Dice give it a try.
I think oficial release date is 08/09. Next Tuesday (all Duotone releases are on Tuesdays, I have no idea why).

Thanks for your comments. My dealer is going to receive several sizes tomorrow, so we will be able to try it. My comments very soon!.

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Re: Duotone Dice 2022

Postby wrogu » Wed Sep 01, 2021 7:40 am

alex85 wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:22 pm
I think the launch of 2022 will be tomorrow.

Had the possibility to test 2022 10 m SLS vs 2021 10 m back to back for an afternoon (both on 24 meters lines).
The wind start at about 14-15 knots for an hour and than picks up to 24-25 knots: basically the entire range of the kite.
The kite looks smaller (not sure about that) for sure LE is a little bit thinner.
Basically is the same kite that flies a little bit further forward in the wind window and with a more rigid structure.
This translate in: even better feelings cause is more direct, more stable, more slack, catchs better after a loop, more height and more hangtime on jumps (but you have to be more accurate moving the kite during the jump), more range in high end (at 24 knots don't even depower the 2022 instead of a couple of cm on the 2021).

Believe me or not but, at least for the Dice, the change in construction materials improves the features of the kite without change the behavior.

I didn't plan to change my 2021 (I believe the biggest step for the Dice was when they has removed the pulleys) but this kite is another step forward and I think it worth the investement.
If you like Dice give it a try.
I agree mostly, but I am not sure about slack (I did not unhook) but my gut feeling tells me that slack will not be improved by the very stiff frame, on the contrary.
But the kite is insanely stiff and solid in the air. Tried 10m in gusty wind as well.

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Re: Duotone Dice 2022

Postby alex85 » Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:20 pm

wrogu wrote:
Wed Sep 01, 2021 7:40 am
alex85 wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:22 pm
I think the launch of 2022 will be tomorrow.

Had the possibility to test 2022 10 m SLS vs 2021 10 m back to back for an afternoon (both on 24 meters lines).
The wind start at about 14-15 knots for an hour and than picks up to 24-25 knots: basically the entire range of the kite.
The kite looks smaller (not sure about that) for sure LE is a little bit thinner.
Basically is the same kite that flies a little bit further forward in the wind window and with a more rigid structure.
This translate in: even better feelings cause is more direct, more stable, more slack, catchs better after a loop, more height and more hangtime on jumps (but you have to be more accurate moving the kite during the jump), more range in high end (at 24 knots don't even depower the 2022 instead of a couple of cm on the 2021).

Believe me or not but, at least for the Dice, the change in construction materials improves the features of the kite without change the behavior.

I didn't plan to change my 2021 (I believe the biggest step for the Dice was when they has removed the pulleys) but this kite is another step forward and I think it worth the investement.
If you like Dice give it a try.
I agree mostly, but I am not sure about slack (I did not unhook) but my gut feeling tells me that slack will not be improved by the very stiff frame, on the contrary.
But the kite is insanely stiff and solid in the air. Tried 10m in gusty wind as well.
Correct, but what I felt is that slack is improved thanks to the capability of the kite to reach more easily the edge of the window after loading the lines: you have a more esxplosive Pop (and then more slacks) cause is more violent the acceleratione in the Window. (sort of Naish Torch effect).
Again, it's just a personale feeling or simply a sensations that I had after riding the 2021 for an year.
For sure the kite flies constantly forward in the Wind Window: also during jumps every time I landed I always felt the kite more to the side than in front of me, it happens the same if you ride an Evo VS an EVO SLS.
:bye:

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Re: Duotone Dice 2022

Postby radeon89 » Fri Sep 03, 2021 11:12 am

andikite wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:17 pm
alex85 wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:22 pm
I think the launch of 2022 will be tomorrow.

Had the possibility to test 2022 10 m SLS vs 2021 10 m back to back for an afternoon (both on 24 meters lines).
The wind start at about 14-15 knots for an hour and than picks up to 24-25 knots: basically the entire range of the kite.
The kite looks smaller (not sure about that) for sure LE is a little bit thinner.
Basically is the same kite that flies a little bit further forward in the wind window and with a more rigid structure.
This translate in: even better feelings cause is more direct, more stable, more slack, catchs better after a loop, more height and more hangtime on jumps (but you have to be more accurate moving the kite during the jump), more range in high end (at 24 knots don't even depower the 2022 instead of a couple of cm on the 2021).

Believe me or not but, at least for the Dice, the change in construction materials improves the features of the kite without change the behavior.

I didn't plan to change my 2021 (I believe the biggest step for the Dice was when they has removed the pulleys) but this kite is another step forward and I think it worth the investement.
If you like Dice give it a try.
I think oficial release date is 08/09. Next Tuesday (all Duotone releases are on Tuesdays, I have no idea why).

Thanks for your comments. My dealer is going to receive several sizes tomorrow, so we will be able to try it. My comments very soon!.
Hi there, where did you find news about release date?


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