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At English Natives: difference Roll vs Rotation?

Postby Toby » Wed Jul 14, 2021 2:18 pm

talking kiteboarding tricks, whats the definition of a roll, and of a rotation?

Same thing?

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Re: At English Natives: difference Roll vs Rotation?

Postby pj sofine » Wed Jul 14, 2021 3:24 pm

A ballerina does a rotation , a roll is off axis,totally different animal .
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Re: At English Natives: difference Roll vs Rotation?

Postby jumptheshark » Wed Jul 14, 2021 3:39 pm

Exactly, to elaborate a bit, pure rotation is spinning around the vertical axis, where in a roll the axis is off vertical with a component around the horizontal axis.

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Re: At English Natives: difference Roll vs Rotation?

Postby Toby » Wed Jul 14, 2021 3:45 pm

so what is this?



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Re: At English Natives: difference Roll vs Rotation?

Postby Zen_Rider » Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:34 pm

Toby wrote:
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so what is this?
Thats a Rolltation...
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Re: At English Natives: difference Roll vs Rotation?

Postby Zen_Rider » Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:46 pm

I would say that a 'Roll' is a type of rotation... As is a 'spin' or a 'flip' or a '360' ...

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Re: At English Natives: difference Roll vs Rotation?

Postby wakijis » Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:51 pm

You are maybe looking for this.

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Re: At English Natives: difference Roll vs Rotation?

Postby Toby » Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:24 pm

wakijis wrote:
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You are maybe looking for this.
So roll would be upside down.

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Re: At English Natives: difference Roll vs Rotation?

Postby Toby » Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:25 pm

Zen_Rider wrote:
Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:34 pm
Toby wrote:
Wed Jul 14, 2021 3:45 pm
so what is this?
Thats a Rolltation...

I think so too. I was told many years ago the difference.
But I see so many videos from English natives where they say Backroll instead of Back rotation.

Very confusing. I thought I was wrong, so I needed confirmation that I use the right terms for my tricks.

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Re: At English Natives: difference Roll vs Rotation?

Postby Herman » Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:17 pm

Roll has many meanings. Pilot, gymnast, tyre mechanic will have a different meaning and what about bakers? You have every right to be confused with this sort of roll-play.
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