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Revolution in Racing Kites

Postby Pump me up » Wed Oct 06, 2021 12:17 am

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The future for COURSE RACING is neither inflatable nor ram air. Rigid-framed kites, similar to hang-gliders, are about to be released!

Hang-glider-like kites were always inevitable. Birds, wasps, stunt kites, and planes are rigid. ALL high performance aircraft (eg hang-gliders vs paragliders) have rigid structures. Rigid hang-gliders out-perform soft paragliders on all measures. Interestingly, the trend in paragliders is towards increased rigidity, e.g. stiff mylar reinforcements, plastic stiffeners in the leading edges and carbon fibre rods sewn into the ribs. These stiffening innovations have resulted in paragliders that are so successful in competition that old-style soft gliders are no longer competitive. Another major weakness of the soft structure of ram airs is a lack of tactile feedback. Ram air kites are soft so the feedback is soft, sloppy, and imprecise. The more rigid a kite is, the more nuanced is the feedback to the rider, e.g. kite position, speed of turn, and grades of power delivery.

Inflatables will continue to dominate in all other aspects of the sport for safety, reliability, ease-of-use, and general performance.

Ignore the lies. Ignore the propaganda. Ram air kites are, and always have been, inferior to rigid framed kites (like inflatables).

:pump: ......... Pumpy

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Re: Revolution in Racing Kites

Postby Kitetwin-1 » Wed Oct 06, 2021 2:26 am

I missed you PMU. Had a peak4 and sold it, LEIs rule

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Re: Revolution in Racing Kites

Postby fernmanus » Wed Oct 06, 2021 3:46 am

Hello pumpy the troll,

Nobody really cares anymore about Ram air vs inflatable kites anymore. You need to get with the times, it is winging vs kiting. Pick a side and get trolling.
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Re: Revolution in Racing Kites

Postby knotwindy » Wed Oct 06, 2021 3:54 am

Until someone makes a ram air wing…
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Re: Revolution in Racing Kites

Postby Baptiste_FR » Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:29 am

It seems that Bruno Legaignoux was, once again, ahead of its time ! ---> High pressure kites !!!!!!

https://www.brunoinventions.com/high-pr ... kite1.html
https://www.brunoinventions.com/concept.html

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Re: Revolution in Racing Kites

Postby AndersP » Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:19 am

Pmu is on the path with hard ram air racing kites.

First was the leading edge stiffeners.
Second was the full length battens (flysurfer vmg)
Whats the next step in hard ram air kites?

Just waiting for full legnth battens or struts in winging. Then you can increase the canopy area without increasing the leading edge span. The Wingthing is closely related to windsurfing and I believe they can easily improve in performance by copying some of the features that windsufing have. They will need a really stiff leading edge to be able to get more performance and less drag.

Of course you have to keep the weight down and I guess we will soon see more dedicated wings for speed/racing vs waves/freestyle/cruising

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Re: Revolution in Racing Kites

Postby Tone » Wed Oct 06, 2021 12:42 pm

Baptiste_FR wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:29 am
It seems that Bruno Legaignoux was, once again, ahead of its time ! ---> High pressure kites !!!!!!

https://www.brunoinventions.com/high-pr ... kite1.html
https://www.brunoinventions.com/concept.html
Looks a bit like the Flexifoil Nexus.

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Re: Revolution in Racing Kites

Postby Faxie » Wed Oct 06, 2021 4:03 pm

fernmanus wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 3:46 am
Hello pumpy the troll,

Nobody really cares anymore about Ram air vs inflatable kites anymore. You need to get with the times, it is winging vs kiting. Pick a side and get trolling.
Just wait till those ram-air wings arrive :lol:

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Re: Revolution in Racing Kites

Postby Carlos_C » Thu Oct 07, 2021 11:55 am

so C- Quads are coming back

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Re: Revolution in Racing Kites

Postby joriws » Thu Oct 07, 2021 6:27 pm

Faxie wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 4:03 pm
Just wait till those ram-air wings arrive :lol:
Wait no more, they were invented decades ago. Tip, search norwegian skiseil.



Before you say thats a kite, no, look how it is steered, exactly the same as wingy-thingy-steering with a stick very similar to dt slick. Sure lines are needed to give structure. All te lines are connected on end of the stick and fe lines to another end.


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