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Re: Ram Airs Crash in 2021

Postby jatem » Thu Nov 04, 2021 8:53 am

Predictions are notoriously difficult to get right. Its actually kite strings that have crashed in 2021, people are holding onto inflato tube wings with their bare hands.

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Re: Ram Airs Crash in 2021

Postby Pump me up » Thu Nov 04, 2021 9:05 am

plummet wrote:
Thu Nov 04, 2021 1:00 am
Apart from pumpy, who actually calls them ram airs?
They are foil kites, open cell, closed cell and single skin...............
Google it - the correct generic term is "ram air kite". But actually they should be called "flying sleeping bags".

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Re: Ram Airs Crash in 2021

Postby Trent hink » Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:28 am

I liked it back in the early years when some non-native english commentators called them “mattresses”

The ones I use now are more like a bed sheet.

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Re: Ram Airs Crash in 2021

Postby leeuwen » Thu Nov 04, 2021 12:01 pm

Although I would rather only fly tube kites I got my first foil kite this year.
I think there are some benefit on hydrofoil (where I also see the biggest ram air userbase locally).
Various ram air kite models offers hydrofoil + Race/Low wind/Wave(downwind) performance you cannot really find elsewhere.
That it comes with drawbacks is just something you learn to live with.

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Re: Ram Airs Crash in 2021

Postby Matteo V » Sun Nov 07, 2021 12:38 am

Trent hink wrote:
Thu Nov 04, 2021 4:24 am
As a creep myself, and check my style….

I have a lot of respect for Pump Me Up.

There are times when you can take what you read here at face value…

but sometimes you got to think a bit.


You've got high hopes for this forum.

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Re: Ram Airs Crash in 2021

Postby Matteo V » Sun Nov 07, 2021 12:42 am

Pump me up wrote:
Thu Nov 04, 2021 12:11 am
TRIGGER WARNING
Notice to Ram Lovers: the following content is potentially distressing, including graphic references to ram air failures, underperformance, and inferiority.
You've got high hopes for this forum.



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Thanks Pumpy! It's good to know you have accepted your moniker, which I gave you.
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Re: Ram Airs Crash in 2021

Postby danlar » Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:34 am

Pump me up wrote:
Thu Nov 04, 2021 9:05 am
plummet wrote:
Thu Nov 04, 2021 1:00 am
Apart from pumpy, who actually calls them ram airs?
They are foil kites, open cell, closed cell and single skin...............
Google it - the correct generic term is "ram air kite". But actually they should be called "flying sleeping bags".
Flying sleeping bags 😂😂

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Re: Ram Airs Crash in 2021

Postby plummet » Sun Nov 07, 2021 8:34 am

I am very dissappointed pumpy hasnt highlighted the dangers of foiling with a non water relaunchable single skin foil kite...
A real lost opportunity to fully troll.

I have lost respect.
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Re: Ram Airs Crash in 2021

Postby Pump me up » Thu Nov 11, 2021 12:37 am

Matteo V wrote:
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Thanks Pumpy! It's good to know you have accepted your moniker, which I gave you.
Thanks Matteo. Yes, many monikers have been tried by others (see below) previously; it hasn't been easy but I think I've finally come to accept "Pumpy".
"Chump Me Up". Ted Bautista: viewtopic.php?t=11619
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Re: Ram Airs Crash in 2021

Postby Eurus » Thu Nov 11, 2021 2:05 am

Pump me up wrote:
Thu Nov 04, 2021 12:11 am
TRIGGER WARNING
Notice to Ram Lovers: the following content is potentially distressing, including graphic references to ram air failures, underperformance, and inferiority.

COVID sucks. BUT … what has been *REALLY* upsetting in the last year has been the RIDICULOUS claims from ram lovers. Despite the lies and exaggerations, ram airs cRaSHeD in 2021. It's interesting to note that NO ram airs..... no NOT ONE (!)…. feature anywhere near the top of world rankings in ANY discipline on the GKA World Tour www.gkakiteworldtour.com. Ram airs cRaSHeD in Freestyle, Wave, and Speed disciplines.

Ram lovers try to hide their problems in their own little forum, but the issues keep leaking out, e.g., inferior lifespan, safety issues, sinking, problems with relaunch/landing on rough beaches, mixer tuning problems, and a litany of other disasters:
- Worn bridle lines: viewtopic.php?f=197&t=2410535&sid=993f6 ... c2502cda96
- Unexpected collapsing: viewtopic.php?f=197&t=2411118&sid=993f6 ... c2502cda96, viewtopic.php?f=197&t=2410767&sid=993f6 ... c2502cda96
- Folding and loss of flight performance due to bridle stretching: viewtopic.php?f=197&t=2410952&sid=993f6 ... c2502cda96
- Issues with mould and moisture retention: viewtopic.php?f=197&t=2410603&sid=993f6 ... c2502cda96

Ralf Groesel, who once designed ram air kites for FLYSURFER, had this to say:
“… it’s the Tube-kite that stands victorious. From a designer’s point-of-view it shines in every aspect; its simplicity in design is the key to controlling its complexity. Tube-kites rule most of the sport-related requirements… Soft-kites have an approximate market share of 4%, meaning that 96% of all kites sold worldwide are Tube-kites. This figure basically validates the success of the concept. Without being too sarcastic, you have to be a believer to think that Soft-kites are the future of the kite market…”
For the full epiphany and admission, please check-out this link: viewtopic.php?t=2400039

Finally, as 2021 winds down, the opportunity to look ahead presents. Waaaay back in 2007, “pluvious” predicted Ram Airs Crashing in 2023 viewtopic.php?t=2343945 . As we start the two year countdown to 2023, let’s keep in mind pluvious’s Nostradumus-like predictions.

Ignore the LIES and exaggerations. Ram airs are grossly inferior compared to inflatables.

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Dude it's hilarious you're still at this about the ram airs.

But yeah...I agree...dey no bueno.
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