Sleeving a flying line

[edt]

splicing is easy. keep practicing you'll eventually be able to splice a line in 30 seconds

[OzBungy]

A guitar string is fine for splicing kite lines. It doesn't matter which one as long as it's not a wound string.

You don't so much pull the line through as push it. You push the outer line towards the entry point and that opens the weave and allows the line to pass down the middle.

There's a number of other techniques. You can simply fold the line back on itself and pull it through. That works fine with guitar strings.

You can catch just the tip of the line in the end of the fid so you've only got a small surface area. That works better with commercial steel fids. The steel acts like a clamp and holds the line.

You can do a bit of a taper on the end of the line then fold it back. That reduces the thickness of the folded over bit. You have to take care that you're close to the thicker end of the taper so that you don't shred the line while pulling it through.

For really thin lines a darning sewing needle works best. Thread the line through the eye of the needle. Feed the needle down the line and out the end.

If you do a Brummel splice you don't need to sew the splice. If you're doing a number of lines you have to measure and mark them at the same time under equal tension. You have to do them exactly the same every time. You can't easily adjust Brummel splices.

You can do a simple splice and adjust it all you want. You can hand sew the bury. It only takes a few stitches. The strength comes from the length of the bury. The stitches are only there to stop the splice slipping when it's not under tension. The best thread is bonded polyester. Normal polyester is adequate. Dental floss will do in a pinch. Avoid cotton.

[supachip1]

yes, i have used one of the ones with the hook at the end, it's hinged so opens as you push it through and then closes holding the line as you pull it back. but not so good thicker line.
you can buy Fids for 1.5-4mm line.

kamaikuzas sock analogy is pretty spot on for the tails or adding sleeving.

[alpaia]

Agree with previous comments - thin guitar string does the job and is very cheap.

I push the outer line so it shortens and does like an accordeon so the line inside is easier to pull through

just a bit of practice its not rocket science.

[knot_moving]

Before burying the splice I unravel a bit over an inch at the end and put half of it thru the fid and let other half fold back.

I use d splicer fids. I tried wire and I think now I could make a wire work fine but when starting out I had lots of issues. D splicer works great and I use all the sizes cause I splice lines when building up bars and depower lines.

[OzBungy]

yes, i have used one of the ones with the hook at the end, it's hinged so opens as you push it through and then closes holding the line as you pull it back. but not so good thicker line.
you can buy Fids for 1.5-4mm line.

kamaikuzas sock analogy is pretty spot on for the tails or adding sleeving.

I tried the hook ones and the edges of the hook and the gate caught the threads of the line.

I mostly use the D-Splicer splicing tools. Very pleased with them. The D-Splicer scissors are great for cutting line.

The tip about shredding the end of the line and folding half back sounds like a good thing to try.

[Breze]

I have done a lot of splicing on all types of lines. On flying lines i used bait needles, guitar strings etc. Made my own hollow "D" Splicers of Knitting needles for thicker lines...
I managed to do some good splices on 3-4mm double braided lines, spliced DC 60... In short, i love splicing.
Recently i found this https://www.liros.com/catalog/en/search ... cro+needle
I must say, i only use now this needle up to 2mm lines. Juster excessively taper the line ends to get it through the needle eye.
No more hassle with bending strings, much quicker working process.Simple&straightforward.Last forever& cheap. On this needle length i can make the bury at least 15cm long with the Liros 401 ( 100x line diameter)With some efford 18cm(x120).But indeed it would be nice to have a 2cm longer model

[daspi]

I use violin strings, even thinner. Works like a charm on fly lines.

[OzBungy]

...Recently i found this https://www.liros.com/catalog/en/search ... cro+needle
...

That's just an ordinary darning needle. Also known as wool sewing or tapestry needle. You can buy a pack of them for about $3. Lots of different sizes available.

[Breze]

...Recently i found this https://www.liros.com/catalog/en/search ... cro+needle
...

That's just an ordinary darning needle. Also known as wool sewing or tapestry needle. You can buy a pack of them for about $3. Lots of different sizes available.

basically yes, but with a slimmer ear.