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Re: Are my pigtails dangerously worn?

Postby edt » Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:25 pm

only way to know for sure is kite until they break. thats what I do
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Re: Are my pigtails dangerously worn?

Postby sergei Scotland » Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:35 am

edt wrote:
Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:25 pm
only way to know for sure is kite until they break. thats what I do
There is a YouTube video with someone cutting his lines while Kiting. Nothing bad happens whichever line he cuts.
But I guess noone would want to try it during a jump any higher then 3m :D
So I do not like this solution that much.
:D
I might get a 3m+ jump one day yet :D

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Re: Are my pigtails dangerously worn?

Postby vakiter » Mon Nov 15, 2021 3:20 am

Can you post a link to that

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Re: Are my pigtails dangerously worn?

Postby Trent hink » Mon Nov 15, 2021 3:52 am

sergei Scotland wrote:
Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:35 am
edt wrote:
Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:25 pm
only way to know for sure is kite until they break. thats what I do
There is a YouTube video with someone cutting his lines while Kiting. Nothing bad happens whichever line he cuts.
But I guess noone would want to try it during a jump any higher then 3m :D
So I do not like this solution that much.
:D
I might get a 3m+ jump one day yet :D
I suggest you try it yourself it a mile or more offshore, and video your experience.
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Re: Are my pigtails dangerously worn?

Postby Kamikuza » Mon Nov 15, 2021 8:54 am

sergei Scotland wrote:
Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:35 am
edt wrote:
Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:25 pm
only way to know for sure is kite until they break. thats what I do
There is a YouTube video with someone cutting his lines while Kiting. Nothing bad happens whichever line he cuts.
But I guess noone would want to try it during a jump any higher then 3m :D
So I do not like this solution that much.
:D
I might get a 3m+ jump one day yet :D
I've had front lines snap, while riding around, at take-off and at the peak of semi-decent jumps. Bad things happen, usually to expensive gear and not bodily parts.

Also annoying is trying to tame a kite which is only really connected by the steering lines, and doesn't like it.

I don't really remember steering lines snapping but I'm sure they have. Pretty much just a release and standard rescue in that case...

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Re: Are my pigtails dangerously worn?

Postby Kamikuza » Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:21 am

sergei Scotland wrote:
Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:27 pm
Kamikuza wrote:
Fri Nov 12, 2021 9:29 am
I've had a pigtail snap too. IMHO it was because the end of the bury wasn't tapered nicely.

I'm guessing they've buried both ends right in the center there, so just the fraying ends of the tails poking out...
Thanks. This (your reason for your pigtail failure) seems to be exactly the same in my case. :thumb:
Those pigtail came with my Blade Unibar V2 bar from 2016 or 2017.
The lines and the bar seem to be still in a very good condition. Depower rope was replace once as started slipping a bit after 3 years.
But those pigtail felt like they had a bendy point in them from the very start.
Just thought it might help other users of this bar. :thumb:
Burying like that, so the pigtails don't go fat-thin-fat like other brands, looks really tidy but I worry about the effect on the outer part. One of those things I'm needlessly paranoid about, no doubt.

I thought my lines were in good nick, then I checked the trim. They're out by about 8 inches :lol: might explain the bar pressure.

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Re: Are my pigtails dangerously worn?

Postby Herman » Mon Nov 15, 2021 11:05 am

Traditionally wear pigs as in the photos have been made short and so, arguably you are relying on stitching and friction in the larks head etc to compensate for the lack of a full bury. Edt’s solution gives a bury that is closer to the rule of thumb of 50 or 72xdiameter and works well with thin line but beyond 2mm it becomes a bit bulky.

Wear pigs don’t have to be short, there is very little disadvantage in using 2.5mm at ~300mm length pig with knot or loop which allows for Brummell and full length bury imho.
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Re: Are my pigtails dangerously worn?

Postby Herman » Mon Nov 15, 2021 12:56 pm

Just finished making some much needed replacements in 2.5mm. Dimensions I used were:

Short ala Edt: 120 - 150 - 150 - 120mm. total 540mm

Long with Brummell loop/loop: 125 - 60 - 320 - 60 - 125mm. total 690mm
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Re: Are my pigtails dangerously worn?

Postby edt » Mon Nov 15, 2021 2:02 pm

very nice splicing job
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Re: Are my pigtails dangerously worn?

Postby sergei Scotland » Mon Nov 15, 2021 11:25 pm

vakiter wrote:
Mon Nov 15, 2021 3:20 am
Can you post a link to that

from around 5 min 10s
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