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Postby kitetime » Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:15 am
Hello everybody. I have a sensor three Po bar and I’m just trimming the lines to adjust for shrinkage.
As per the core instructional video I am trimming them to the end of the line rather than the end of the pig tail.
My issue is that my pigtails are an uneven length. The front line pigtails with the knot around 2 cm longer than the rear line pigtails with the Larks head.
Does anybody know if this is normal to have an asymmetrical length pigtail on Core Bars, Or are they meant to be the same length. If that is the case I will simplify a new set of pigtails.
Come on captain core. You must have an answer
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Postby kitetime » Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:10 am
So I contacted core directly. The support is abysmal. They just said if your lines are different lengths buy new lines.
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Postby kitetime » Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:11 am
Update. I just got another response from Core which was a lot more sensible. I guess it depends what support person you’re talking to like in all businesses. I have attached below. Basically answers my question by saying that the lines and pigtails should be all the same length. Pretty easy to solve the problem by moving the knot in the pigtail if you know what is correct and what is not.
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Postby Windwarrior » Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:38 pm
Knots on the frontline pigtails are figure eight knots, so just move the longer one to fit the shorter one.
No big deal. And check the two frontlines alone...sometimes they are not 100% same, then you can adjust this with the knot.
Dyneema lines shrink, so you have to check them regulary.
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Postby SolarSet » Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:47 pm
not an expect but you should put some load on bar lines to check their length, they could show difference while no load on them and then even out. I connect CL to harness and other ends to fix point why leaning on harness to apply some load.
Every kite lines will change their length after some riding. To answer your question why two front lines could have different length I think its can happen when you jump predominantly on one side.
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Postby BillyGoatGruff » Thu Jan 20, 2022 3:40 pm
Knots on the frontline pigtails are figure eight knots, so just move the longer one to fit the shorter one.
The knots are spliced and sewn in, you can't move these knots. I would leave the knots as they are and just make the adjustments at the bar, either via the bar ends trim knots (likely under the bar floaters) or by the centre line trim strap.
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Postby Windwarrior » Thu Jan 20, 2022 3:42 pm
BillyGoatGruff wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 3:40 pm
Knots on the frontline pigtails are figure eight knots, so just move the longer one to fit the shorter one.
The knots are spliced and sewn in, you can't move these knots. I would leave the knots as they are and just make the adjustments at the bar, either via the bar ends trim knots (likely under the bar floaters) or by the centre line trim strap.
No, the are not! Clearly visible because there is a webbing covered end.....
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Postby BillyGoatGruff » Thu Jan 20, 2022 3:50 pm
I just zoomed in on that pic, you are right they are not lock stitched, so should be able to move the knot up.
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Postby CaptainCore » Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:57 pm
kitetime wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:15 am
Come on captain core. You must have an answer
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And as if by Magic here I am happy new year.
Re connectors they are supposed to be equal length (in their pairs obviously)
As per this picture on my fine new attempt at yet another cheap website.
https://www.ease-distribution.com/senso ... -loop-pair
As for lines, all lines stretch for any number of reasons and it is recommended you attempt to rectify by yanking on the short line to attempt to even them up, Core lines are lyros dyneema and they aint as bad as a lot of lines from other outfits I could mention. Had a picture once of the rep showing Core dealers what to do at a dealer meeting. I shall try and find it and maybe report back, but there are probably videos out there somewhere.
Short answer to your connector problem buy new ones.
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Postby Matty V » Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:59 pm
kitetime wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:15 am
Hello everybody. I have a sensor three Po bar and I’m just trimming the lines to adjust for shrinkage.
As per the core instructional video I am trimming them to the end of the line rather than the end of the pig tail.
My issue is that my pigtails are an uneven length. The front line pigtails with the knot around 2 cm longer than the rear line pigtails with the Larks head.
Does anybody know if this is normal to have an asymmetrical length pigtail on Core Bars, Or are they meant to be the same length. If that is the case I will simplify a new set of pigtails.
Come on captain core. You must have an answer
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Have You not considered that the reverse knot/loop on the kite bridle actually takes into account any discrepancy and your lines are absolutely fine..
Your lines are fine as can be seen in the picture you provided
When you attach the knot on the line to the loop on the kite it will be even
Please stop panicking
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