Call the industry to unify inflation valves

[edt]

I want there to be standards on everything. Standards on kite valves, colors of bars, pigtails, it's annoying. There is some market pressure to do this, a little bit. Naish quite using the octopus and Core quit doing the twist QR so who knows maybe some day but only because of pressure the customers put on the manufacturers.

[knyfe]

Glad I am not the only one thinking the situation is stupid. Of the 4 I have I like the ozone the best as it never failed compared to some of the other ones. But don’t ask me to name it - oh ok - I see it listed as BiG Boston Valve. I had trouble multiple times with the cantina/BRM valves - not a fan. Also had failures over the years with Duotone- then North valves. And I dislike the old but still working small rubber inflation valves due to the flow issue - especially on large kites.

I don’t think they should settle on one valve - but on one adapter which fits all the valves. Like the push out QRs. All are different but all work the same. Even core learned that.

Someone from fix my kite wants to chime in as they sell all different valves to start with?

G

[grigorib]

I love Boston valves which Slingshot uses. The deflation valve is also useful, at least I enjoy having it

[Faxie]

You can only brake the pushpin by twisting the hose against it. I had it figured out the second I looked at it. Never had a problem. Naish gives you a spare valve and a tool to remove it in case you brake it. If you brake it the second time go back to Boston. I put high miles on my car and interior is mint. Friend of mine destroys everything on the inside. So yeah, it is not for everybody.

Yeah, what I said already... if it breaks when you accidentally touch it with the hose, the design sucks. I'm pretty sure I didn't touch it though, because before I used the system it already didn't look like the most reliable valve to me with the plastic (nylon by the feel of it) pushpin and spring, so I was already cautious. But sure, if someone with 1500+ hours experience fucks it up (again, don't think I did, was careful to pull the hose straight, also not pushing in too hard to deflate), it sure would be a great system for all the beginners that just bought their first kite... what could go wrong huh? The Core system with the separate deflate piece would even be a better choice.

I've been told there was a 1% failing rate on these valves, that's why spares are included and the redesign is coming.

And sure, let me get my scissors and cut out the valve of my brand new kites, lol. I would be interested in a Boston adapter though. Don't think those exist unfortunately (yet)

[purdyd]

I don’t think it has to be one standard valve. But I do think there should be a standard bayonet mount.

I like the Boston valve. It is replaceable and it seems like every pump works with it. Unlike duotone’s bayonet valve.

[ham-er]

Never gonna happen. Too many brands want to have unique selling points.

Please explain...and find me ONE guy on here who decided to buy a kite for it's valve

Maybe not a determining factor to buy a kite, but if a particular manufacturer uses a valve you hate, you will not buy that kite for that one reason.

I am all for standardisation, doesn't have to be 1 and only solution, but no more than 2 or 3 max

[Dingus]

Above suggestion of standard(universal) bayonet pump hose fittings and valve replacement options is excellent!!!!

Can we please have a standard or universal-
Internal hose fitting diameter,
External hose fitting diameter,
Bayonet size(length depth).

And also adapters that fit to the universal pump hose?

[SENDIT!]

I don’t want ANY valve that requires ANY adaptor at all. That leaves plenty of room to have some variety for whatever reason you like (The Cabrinha/Slingshot valve, North valve, and Ocean Rodeo valves, for example). Those are all slightly different in appearance, but they all function well and the standard pump hose just plugs on. No adaptors needed. That’s just one more thing to lose/forget. Just yesterday while I was doing the beach prep part of a lesson, a local came over and asked if I had a Duotone adaptor b/c he’d forgotten his pump at home. I didn’t (I must’ve loaned mine from my adaptor bag to someone and not gotten it back) and neither did anyone else. So he just ended up going home and missing a session. It’s been several years since I owned a kite that needed an adaptor and I don’t miss that at all.

[Oldman_Dave]

I don’t want ANY valve that requires ANY adaptor at all. That leaves plenty of room to have some variety for whatever reason you like (The Cabrinha/Slingshot valve, North valve, and Ocean Rodeo valves, for example). Those are all slightly different in appearance, but they all function well and the standard pump hose just plugs on. No adaptors needed.

This is the correct answer

[Peter_Frank]

I don’t want ANY valve that requires ANY adaptor at all. That leaves plenty of room to have some variety for whatever reason you like (The Cabrinha/Slingshot valve, North valve, and Ocean Rodeo valves, for example). Those are all slightly different in appearance, but they all function well and the standard pump hose just plugs on. No adaptors needed. That’s just one more thing to lose/forget. Just yesterday while I was doing the beach prep part of a lesson, a local came over and asked if I had a Duotone adaptor b/c he’d forgotten his pump at home. I didn’t (I must’ve loaned mine from my adaptor bag to someone and not gotten it back) and neither did anyone else. So he just ended up going home and missing a session. It’s been several years since I owned a kite that needed an adaptor and I don’t miss that at all.

How many use this?

Have never seen it myself, but would be great

Standard pump hoses all come with the bayonet:

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Which kites/Wings use valves where the std bayonet fits?

i find it utterly frustrating, that North/Duotone use an "almost" bayonet valve, but a few tenths of a mm different, so a std hose/pump without adaptor does not work....
Close but no cigar

Peter