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Re: Localism - How to keep people out of your kite spot

Postby Havre » Sat May 14, 2022 1:18 pm

How is that hilarious?

Kind of hilarious how you can be that judgemental without arguing why.

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Re: Localism - How to keep people out of your kite spot

Postby PullStrings » Sat May 14, 2022 3:15 pm

Invite Joe & Kamala to do some border control !!

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Re: Localism - How to keep people out of your kite spot

Postby 14ToeSide » Sat May 14, 2022 3:19 pm

Don’t forget to wear a Mask😂😂😂😂🚽🚽🚽🚽🧻🧻🧻🧻

And don’t kite within 6 feet of each other 🚽💨🚽💨🚽💨🚬🕳🚬🕳🚬🕳

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Re: Localism - How to keep people out of your kite spot

Postby PullStrings » Sat May 14, 2022 3:27 pm

How clean is the wind & water there ???
You might need a 4th booster shot !!!!

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Re: Localism - How to keep people out of your kite spot

Postby Boston kiter » Sun May 15, 2022 2:15 pm

Offer them free baby formula if they go elsewhere.....more valuable than Bitcoin in these sad times. lol

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Re: Localism - How to keep people out of your kite spot

Postby andylc » Sun May 15, 2022 3:53 pm

Other than getting an official blessing to use the area within a certain set of parameters, which perhaps could be offered to others if they for instance signed a code of conduct or something, I don’t see how you’re in any position to judge others who are basically breaking the same rules that you are.
Permit systems work fairly well elsewhere.
I am of the view, as I’m sure other responsible kite surfers are, that I am a risk to myself at times, but almost zero risk to others. Kiting is silent, so doesn’t disturb anyone, other than perhaps breeding birds - even then from my experience restricted wildlife areas can be maintained quite successfully alongside kiting locations, my local spot at Exmouth being a good example.
Most beach goers enjoy watching it and taking photos, and if there are other water users then there are plenty of examples of kite surfers rescuing other beach users and very few instances of them causing harm. It’s just a matter of persuading the right people that this is the case.

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Re: Localism - How to keep people out of your kite spot

Postby Trent hink » Sun May 15, 2022 8:18 pm

Where is this happening?

It seems that Europe is much more crowded than the US, so more regulation is considered acceptable or even necessary.

One of the new things happening on the west coast of Florida, is that property owners have started marking off what they believe to be their private property with no trespassing signs.

Based on what I see happening at the beach, with some of the users being extremely inconsiderate about things as simple as not leaving the beach littered with trash, I can't blame property owners.

The thing is, here in Florida, the beach is all public; from the water all the way up to the mean high water line.

But the property owners, (and probably law enforcement, if one were to push the point) seem to be drawing out the mean high water line based on measurements that were taken 20 years ago or more...

Then, add in the fact that many of the beaches here get "replenished" at taxpayer expense.

I haven't run into any problems. Yet... But I am generally very polite and always do my best to be respectful.

... But the minute some jerk tries to tell me I have no right to be on "his" beach...

If it is one of the ones that locally costs more than a million USD, per mile, per year, to keep intact... You can bet I will have something to say about it...

I mean... I have paid, out of my own pocket, for some of these multi-million dollar properties not to disappear in the latest storm.

And if you have a problem with that, you have some explaining to do.

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Re: Localism - How to keep people out of your kite spot

Postby Boston kiter » Sun May 15, 2022 11:37 pm

Trent hink wrote:
Sun May 15, 2022 8:18 pm
Where is this happening?

It seems that Europe is much more crowded than the US, so more regulation is considered acceptable or even necessary.

One of the new things happening on the west coast of Florida, is that property owners have started marking off what they believe to be their private property with no trespassing signs.

Based on what I see happening at the beach, with some of the users being extremely inconsiderate about things as simple as not leaving the beach littered with trash, I can't blame property owners.

The thing is, here in Florida, the beach is all public; from the water all the way up to the mean high water line.

But the property owners, (and probably law enforcement, if one were to push the point) seem to be drawing out the mean high water line based on measurements that were taken 20 years ago or more...

Then, add in the fact that many of the beaches here get "replenished" at taxpayer expense.

I haven't run into any problems. Yet... But I am generally very polite and always do my best to be respectful.

... But the minute some jerk tries to tell me I have no right to be on "his" beach...

If it is one of the ones that locally costs more than a million USD, per mile, per year, to keep intact... You can bet I will have something to say about it...

I mean... I have paid, out of my own pocket, for some of these multi-million dollar properties not to disappear in the latest storm.

And if you have a problem with that, you have some explaining to do.
Rich people can really suck...it's private property till they need a government bail out....DBs

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Re: Localism - How to keep people out of your kite spot

Postby JakeFarley » Sun May 15, 2022 11:59 pm

There is no reason to keep out non-locals, especially here in Florida where tourism is a major source of income to businesses. The only thing I wish is that the tourists would leave this year (seems that they all stayed... LOL). I once heard someone say "tourists are like hemmorhoids. When they come down they are a pain in the ass and when they go back up you get relief".. :D

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Re: Localism - How to keep people out of your kite spot

Postby Localizer » Mon May 16, 2022 2:39 am

Damn. I spent a few days offline and some of you really went at it in the meantime. Some of you people are ruthless

There used to be some respect for localism. There were certain surf spots, certain bike trails, or certain backcountry ski areas you just relented to the locals if you were new or from out of town. I guess those days are gone. Everyone’s woke now.

Any Hawaiians out there? You guys know what I’m talking about. I guess I’ll fight fire with fire too


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