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North Rebel 2018 or Duotone Mono 2020 for a beginner

Postby Xavier1307 » Thu Jun 23, 2022 4:15 pm

Hello everyone,

I started kitesurfing one year ago and in my quiver i have a 2020 Duotone Evo 13m and a 2020 Duotone Neo 9m, i manage to go upwind and my transitions are getting on.

I would like a 11m kite and i consider two different options :
- A 2018 North Rebel : i know this a very good kite but is it user-friendly enough for me ?
- A 2020 Duotone Mono : is it good for freeriding (it seems dedicated to foiling) ?

Thank for your advices

I weigh 85kg and i kite in Britany (France)

See you on the water !

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Re: North Rebel 2018 or Duotone Mono 2020 for a beginner

Postby Si_DB » Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:57 pm

Unless you are foiling I’d stay well away from the mono. 11m Rebel is an absolute jumping beast with good low end and you can hold onto it well up to 25 knots. Love mine.

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Re: North Rebel 2018 or Duotone Mono 2020 for a beginner

Postby GregK » Thu Jun 23, 2022 10:28 pm

What's under your feet ?

Might want to consider a 2nd board if the wind increases / decreases a lot where you ride, as switching boards is a lot faster than setting up a 2nd kite. If your current board is on the larger size & flatter-rocker ( more light-wind oriented ), then a smaller board with a bit more rocker may be the way to go, and visa versa. Modern kites have a ton of wind range, if you learn how to use it.

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Re: North Rebel 2018 or Duotone Mono 2020 for a beginner

Postby Windigo1 » Thu Jun 23, 2022 11:36 pm

Go with the Rebel the Mono has a very limited wind range the Rebel a great wind range and it's not very fast so no problems for a beginner. Later when you start jumping you will love it. The Mono is mainly for foiling in very light wind!

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Re: North Rebel 2018 or Duotone Mono 2020 for a beginner

Postby Boston kiter » Fri Jun 24, 2022 2:11 am

Rebel!!!!!!

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Re: North Rebel 2018 or Duotone Mono 2020 for a beginner

Postby CaptainKook » Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:02 am

Your Neo 9m is a grunty kite and pulls more like a 10m, so not ideal quiver spacing. Would be better with 7m neo (pulls like an 8m kite). You would then have equivalent of 8m/10m/13m which would be ideal for 85kg rider. Different board sizes will expand you kite range further

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Re: North Rebel 2018 or Duotone Mono 2020 for a beginner

Postby Havre » Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:32 am

I basically got a 9m and 13m Edge now. Not sure how necessary it is with a 11m in between. Of course if you got the money and maybe live in a windy spot I could see the point, but personally I don't think I will miss not having an 11 much.

But if you want an 11 the Rebel is great if you want to jump. It is a bit brutal (I haven't been on the 2018 model, but I know 2019 quite well), but if you are fairly comfortable riding and you aren't "afraid" of sudden power then it is a very good kite (assuming the 18 is somewhat similar to 19). If you crash and lose control over the kite it can throw you around quite a lot so I don't recommend it for beginners who don't have a reasonable feel for how a kite behaves, but for anyone who has crashed some and isn't getting stressed when it happens it is fine.

Almost just got to self evaluate. I personally like maybe too much power riding - while I got some friends who even if they are better than me kiting don't really like the power of the Rebel. Especially one just end up riding very conservatively with the Rebel as he prefers kites that are "smoother" (for the lack of a better word).

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Re: North Rebel 2018 or Duotone Mono 2020 for a beginner

Postby Blackened » Mon Jun 27, 2022 2:03 am

Havre wrote:
Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:32 am
I basically got a 9m and 13m Edge now. Not sure how necessary it is with a 11m in between. Of course if you got the money and maybe live in a windy spot I could see the point, but personally I don't think I will miss not having an 11 much.
Very necessary. N+1 is the correct number of kites to own.

I sometimes complain there is too much of a step between 1m sizes...so, take that how you will :D.

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Re: North Rebel 2018 or Duotone Mono 2020 for a beginner

Postby Havre » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:15 am

Blackened wrote:
Mon Jun 27, 2022 2:03 am
Havre wrote:
Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:32 am
I basically got a 9m and 13m Edge now. Not sure how necessary it is with a 11m in between. Of course if you got the money and maybe live in a windy spot I could see the point, but personally I don't think I will miss not having an 11 much.
Very necessary. N+1 is the correct number of kites to own.

I sometimes complain there is too much of a step between 1m sizes...so, take that how you will :D.
Haha. Well :thumb:

It doesn't happen often, but I have gone out with my 12m Enduro regretting not having gone out with the 9 and vice versa. Also conditions tend to change during a session so for me there is a sweet spot in terms of the number of kites to have. Too much choice isn't very helpful to me.

Not to say that 9-11-13 would be too much. Depends a bit on the rider and of course how stable the conditions are at the spot. Digression, but I remember some days in Langebaan. Two hour sessions without even thinking about touching the trim. Ridiculously stable. Under such conditions having the perfect size matters if you are slightly more advanced than me I guess.

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Re: North Rebel 2018 or Duotone Mono 2020 for a beginner

Postby Blackened » Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:39 am

Havre wrote:
Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:15 am
It doesn't happen often, but I have gone out with my 12m Enduro regretting not having gone out with the 9 and vice versa. Also conditions tend to change during a session so for me there is a sweet spot in terms of the number of kites to have. Too much choice isn't very helpful to me.

Not to say that 9-11-13 would be too much. Depends a bit on the rider and of course how stable the conditions are at the spot. Digression, but I remember some days in Langebaan. Two hour sessions without even thinking about touching the trim. Ridiculously stable. Under such conditions having the perfect size matters if you are slightly more advanced than me I guess.
Agreed. Sometimes I'm paralyzed by choice and end up faffing around on the beach for ages trying to decide what will be the perfect size for the conditions.

It helps having the perfect sized kite for looping, but not essential. Just nice.


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