Does the flag out line need a stopper at the line splitter?

[artificialname]

I have just attached new fly lines to my HQ4 One bar. I worry that I haven't correctly attached the new centre fly line to the flag out (red elastic line attached to chicken loop). See picture attached.

Is there supposed to be a stopper of some type where the flag out meets the metal line splitter? Like on the other centre line... otherwise won't the strain of the line be taken by the red elastic instead of being taken by the chicken loop?

But a stopper then doesn’t pass through the hole in the centre of the bar which stops the bar from flagging out!

And doesn’t it also need a stopper to prevent the flag out line swelling up and jamming in the metal line splitter?

[Faxie]

The loop/loop connection is your stopper. It cannot go through the splitter one way, but the line can slide through the other way for when you activate the safety.

[knotwindy]

That looks like it will have a fair amount of movement against the metal and wear quickly?

[edt]

Looks good go fly it and test the qr

[rnelias]

I have just attached new fly lines to my HQ4 One bar. I worry that I haven't correctly attached the new centre fly line to the flag out (red elastic line attached to chicken loop). See picture attached.

Is there supposed to be a stopper of some type where the flag out meets the metal line splitter? Like on the other centre line... otherwise won't the strain of the line be taken by the red elastic instead of being taken by the chicken loop?

But a stopper then doesn’t pass through the hole in the centre of the bar which stops the bar from flagging out!

And doesn’t it also need a stopper to prevent the flag out line swelling up and jamming in the metal line splitter?

Yes, it must have a stopper there.

It's the stopper that supports half of your weight at the splitter point, otherwise, the line will run freely when the kite pulls you and the load you be just in the fixed line. Your kite will be off to the opposite side of the safety system if you keep it mounted this way. The splitter is a 2:1 system where the safety line must lock when the kite pulls you and release when you pull the kite through the eject.

[Windigo1]

The loops are the stopper in one direction sometimes there's a little plastic ball 5 or 10 meters up the flying line to stop it from flagging all the way but sometimes there's isn't one.

[Faxie]

That looks like it will have a fair amount of movement against the metal and wear quickly?

Plenty bars with metal stoppers had that problem. So it's something to watch out for.

[edt]

Yes, it must have a stopper there.

It's the stopper that supports half of your weight at the splitter point, otherwise, the line will run freely when the kite pulls you and the load you be just in the fixed line. Your kite will be off to the opposite side of the safety system if you keep it mounted this way. The splitter is a 2:1 system where the safety line must lock when the kite pulls you and release when you pull the kite through the eject.

some line splitters needs a stopper, like the Ozone one:



notice how large the hole is on the left side that's to accomodate the ball stopper. The Naish V bracket also requires a little stopper ball.



On line splitters with small holes (I believe this is true for the hq4), you don't need a stopper ball. of course you can add a stopper ball but it won't do anything as the diameter of the stainless steel line splitter bracket is already sized correctly that the safety line won't pull through under load.

[alpaia]

You are right some splitters need a stopper ball the hq not.
But need to check the thickness of loop to loop so it cant pull through.
I think 3mm safety line works but you should double check.
Try to load this somehow before you kite.
Check for wear regularly

[alpaia]

The root cause is chicken loop with small center hole,
Which forces to use a skinny loop to loop, that needs a tight fit with the splitter or a stopper ball.
That is a weak point (too small : could pull through, too big : could jam the release, and wears)

Some more recent QR like the kiteattitude have a large center hole.
This allows a thicker loop to loop with sheeted line to pass through,
So the splitter or ball fit is less critical and wears less.