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Re: Do kites stay at the same pressure after hours?

Postby Havre » Sun Aug 14, 2022 9:58 pm

Toby wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 9:56 pm
My last two kites were leaking.
But still rideable up to 5 hours, so no problem.
This is quite normal it seems.

Same with one of my old kites.

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Re: Do kites stay at the same pressure after hours?

Postby bjw » Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:33 pm

After a kite gets rolled in the surf, it always feels softer. Could it be the air compressing during a session?

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Re: Do kites stay at the same pressure after hours?

Postby Trent hink » Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:48 pm

I have had inflatable kites that developed tiny pin-holes in the leading-edge bladder.

I think it was mostly from self-landing on a beach littered with fish bones after a red-tide event.

But, the kites worked well-enough, and it was amazing to realize how many tiny holes there were, once the problem got so bad that I actually decided to remove the bladder and chase down the culprit.

I have also had the experience where one of my smaller inflatable kites seemed to be going flat, but the actual problem was the pressure drop from a strong cold front moving in.

If the bladder integrity is perfect, it should hold air practically forever.

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Re: Do kites stay at the same pressure after hours?

Postby tegirinenashi » Mon Aug 15, 2022 12:49 am

Before one pump one had to inflate each strut separately. This was quite a chore, especially with 7 strut kites being the norm. Common time saving trick was to not deflate struts at all, therefore, trading the kite setup time for the extra space taken by the kite stored with inflated struts.

In my experience, though, struts had never held the full pressure for long. While some struts were able to survive a week or two, there was always one demanding reinflation before each session.

P.S. This was also the times when bladders were quite thick, so that contemporary new lightweight ones might be even worse.
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Re: Do kites stay at the same pressure after hours?

Postby edt » Mon Aug 15, 2022 1:08 am

bjw wrote:
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After a kite gets rolled in the surf, it always feels softer. Could it be the air compressing during a session?
Air escapes out through the connectors. When it gets rolled in the surf there's so much pressure that the air just squirts out and often you'll even pop open a one pump connector.

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Re: Do kites stay at the same pressure after hours?

Postby cglazier » Mon Aug 15, 2022 1:24 am

I have repaired many kites. After each bladder repair we would always leave the kite pumped up overnight. If it wasn’t firm the next day we looked for more leaks.
Bladder repair isn’t difficult. There are instructions on the internet. Be sure to pump your kite up before you remove the bladder and use a spray of soapy water to find the leaking area. I always found the leak area.. even slow leaks.
As mentioned above it is often the inflate valve.
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Re: Do kites stay at the same pressure after hours?

Postby alfredo68 » Mon Aug 15, 2022 1:34 am

bjw wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:33 pm
After a kite gets rolled in the surf, it always feels softer. Could it be the air compressing during a session?
Exactly, when washed out in the surf they always loose pressure , dont know how. Or is just the materials that streched?

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Re: Do kites stay at the same pressure after hours?

Postby alfredo68 » Mon Aug 15, 2022 1:35 am

edt wrote:
Mon Aug 15, 2022 1:08 am
bjw wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:33 pm
After a kite gets rolled in the surf, it always feels softer. Could it be the air compressing during a session?

Air escapes out through the connectors. When it gets rolled in the surf there's so much pressure that the air just squirts out and often you'll even pop open a one pump connector.
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Re: Do kites stay at the same pressure after hours?

Postby Trent hink » Mon Aug 15, 2022 1:45 am

Strong changes in temperature or ambient pressure might affect the pressure in your inflatable kite, but if the integrity of the bladder(s) is good, it's nothing that a few pumps won't solve.

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Re: Do kites stay at the same pressure after hours?

Postby JakeFarley » Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:12 am

Temperature changes when a cold front comes through will definitely soften a kite. Also, if the water temperature is significantly lower than the air temperature, a wet kite will lose some pressure. Remember Boyle's law P1V1/T1=P2V2/T2. If Temperature drops and V1=V2, then P2 drops in proportion to the Temperature drop.


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