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Re: Kiter death in Cape Town

Postby Bille » Wed Jan 18, 2023 6:08 pm

Flyingseb wrote:
Wed Jan 18, 2023 3:46 am
Toby wrote:
Tue Jan 17, 2023 11:03 pm
Bille wrote:
Tue Jan 17, 2023 10:59 pm


I have bin doing that , since 2005 ; there "IS" no better
way to go , because it cuts the reaction time in 1/2 (.)

BTW :
Bin at this kiting thing since 2002 ; I have Never bin
injured ; doing this sport.

Bille
great! and happy to hear. My injuries are also pretty light. worst was a hurt rib. and that's with pushing every time new tricks. Big kite in 15-25 knots is safer for me.
And staying away from kiteloops, like me 😊 (not talking about down loops, which are off course much different)
I don't do over-head kite-loops either ; just down-loops and Up-loops to
unwind my lines, and add or (subtract) power , when needed.

YES -- when you grab the break-kine in a loop, and pull it to
behind your back ; it will cause the center of rotation on the
kite to go Way inside the tip, and ya get a Huge reduction in
power. It's something you can practice in light winds ; works
great on Big kites.

Bille

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Re: Kiter death in Cape Town

Postby Hugh2 » Thu Jan 19, 2023 5:29 am

Bille wrote:
Wed Jan 18, 2023 5:59 pm
jms wrote:
Wed Jan 18, 2023 3:26 am
Toby wrote:
Tue Jan 17, 2023 11:56 am
That’s why everyone should launch with one hand on the QR.
But 99% don’t do it. Rather have their board in their hand…
When self launching, I'm not even hooked in and just hold onto the chicken loop. Hasn't been a problem even in nuking winds, and makes me feel a lot safer.
I like what You do ; better than what toby and I have for
technique !! :thumb:

Do you have the safety hooked in ; when you do that ?
Also -- how is the feel in strong winds ?

Bille
Good questions, Bille. I presume you connect the leash after hooking into the chicken loop, but that assumes you somehow have the kite not really launched yet?? Maybe bouncing on a wing tip on the beach or water? Or do you hook in when the kite rises above you, but for that you have to have hands on the bar. Confusing. I have never seen launching done this way in Cape Town or anywhere else.

I understand the principle, for example, you can swap kites with someone if you are on a wide open beach or in shallow flat water, with one person temporarily holding both chicken loops, one on each side, with the trimmed down kites bouncing on their wing tips, but with no leashes attached it is a tenuous situation not suitable for strong gusty winds like we have on the beaches in Cape Town when launching.

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Re: Kiter death in Cape Town

Postby CaptainKook » Thu Jan 19, 2023 8:31 am

This video came up for unhooked self launching which explains it. Makes sense and removes the risk of getting dragged.

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Re: Kiter death in Cape Town

Postby Toby » Sat Jan 28, 2023 3:48 am

The problem is that some people just don’t have the knowledge, mind, experience etc so something like this happens:


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Re: Kiter death in Cape Town

Postby PugetSoundKiter » Sat Jan 28, 2023 6:40 am

CaptainKook wrote:
Thu Jan 19, 2023 8:31 am
This video came up for unhooked self launching which explains it. Makes sense and removes the risk of getting dragged.
:thumb:

Any unhooked launch instructions for a foil kite in 20+knots?

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Re: Kiter death in Cape Town

Postby adorezlesoleil » Thu Feb 09, 2023 12:08 am

Peter_Frank wrote:
Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:46 pm
Im am no expert, but have been in CT and the area around many many years.

If low winds, you go south to Platboom and similar (Scarborough and Witsands), where the wind usually is a lot stronger, if not much further north where it on occassion but not often, can be stronger.

Muizenberg is not really a kite or windsurf wavespot, as wind is usually onshore, and less wind, usually more stable than most other spots, and we always go there to surf instead of using a kite or sail, as good waves even when no wind.

Capetown (which is quite far away from Muizenberg) has all its known beaches starting from Sunset and then all the way up around Big Bay and Haakgat and to Melkbos - almost same wind, not always very stable as sideshore sometimes a tad off just corrected by the coast.

Further north, at YzerFontein, sometimes mega swell periods, and can be wind there too.

Finally Langebaan which is mostly a flat water spot - can be windy and good very often yes, but not super windy that often.

My point is, one can NOT compare if the wind was gusty or not, at one place, regarding how it was at another spot - they are totally different windwise so you have to kite at the exaxt same spot and time of day, to know how the wind was.

Sorry, not much contribution here, just that one can not compare wind strengths or gust between spots in South Africa in and around CapeTown.

Condolenses to the family, sad, and we apparently dont know much it seems?

8) Peter
I disagree. I think we can compare. I've kited in several spots in South Africa on the days that this happened. Knowing that Muizenberg is an onshore place just increases the chances of fatal accidents or severe wounds so it is actually very helpful to have this type of knowledge of varying spots and it makes perfect sense to compare so that we can choose to best spot. The wind along the coast in South Africa behaves similar everywhere. The surrounding conditions are different and it is important to know before you start what you want to get out of a session so comparing is how you could determine that.


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