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Re: Light wind Kites - Comparison between Juice Dlab vs Juice vs Core XR7 LW vs Ozone Zephyr

Postby Silfio » Mon Jan 02, 2023 7:32 pm

Thank you guys, the proplem of my home spot for hydrofoiling is that the surface of the water is covered in algae in sometimes during the year, especially during
the summerseason, therefore is not the best spot for hydrofoil learning.
Let's say I am oriented to Juice Dlab - 15m and I promise I will try to learn hydrofoiling somewhere else and come back to my home spot with hydrofoiling equipment as well :thumb:

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Re: Light wind Kites - Comparison between Juice Dlab vs Juice vs Core XR7 LW vs Ozone Zephyr

Postby Fatso » Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:51 pm

Silfio wrote:
Mon Jan 02, 2023 7:32 pm
Thank you guys, the proplem of my home spot for hydrofoiling is that the surface of the water is covered in algae in sometimes during the year, especially during
the summerseason, therefore is not the best spot for hydrofoil learning.
Let's say I am oriented to Juice Dlab - 15m and I promise I will try to learn hydrofoiling somewhere else and come back to my home spot with hydrofoiling equipment as well :thumb:
Fair enough on the foil side of things with all that algae, but be under no illusion, if it's that bad, a bigger kite won't help you much algae greatly reduces what can be achieved on a TT and won't go near it's lower range whatsoever. Algae is a bonner killer.
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Re: Light wind Kites - Comparison between Juice Dlab vs Juice vs Core XR7 LW vs Ozone Zephyr

Postby Havre » Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:57 pm

Not sure down to 10, but I can go around 15 knots with my 13m Edge. So at 12 I wouldn’t be surprised if you can have some decent fun with a 15m juice. At 14–15 it should be quite good I would imagine.
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Re: Light wind Kites - Comparison between Juice Dlab vs Juice vs Core XR7 LW vs Ozone Zephyr

Postby Flyingseb » Mon Jan 02, 2023 9:36 pm

Fatso wrote:
Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:51 pm
Silfio wrote:
Mon Jan 02, 2023 7:32 pm
Thank you guys, the proplem of my home spot for hydrofoiling is that the surface of the water is covered in algae in sometimes during the year, especially during
the summerseason, therefore is not the best spot for hydrofoil learning.
Let's say I am oriented to Juice Dlab - 15m and I promise I will try to learn hydrofoiling somewhere else and come back to my home spot with hydrofoiling equipment as well :thumb:
Fair enough on the foil side of things with all that algae, but be under no illusion, if it's that bad, a bigger kite won't help you much algae greatly reduces what can be achieved on a TT and won't go near it's lower range whatsoever. Algae is a bonner killer.
Not sure what kind of algae you’re talking about, but it has never been a problem in my case, with a TT.
A TT is only skimming on the surface, with small inclined fins, there is not much algae can do to prevent it.
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Re: Light wind Kites - Comparison between Juice Dlab vs Juice vs Core XR7 LW vs Ozone Zephyr

Postby rnelias » Mon Jan 02, 2023 11:15 pm

Silfio wrote:
Mon Jan 02, 2023 7:32 pm
Thank you guys, the proplem of my home spot for hydrofoiling is that the surface of the water is covered in algae in sometimes during the year, especially during
the summerseason, therefore is not the best spot for hydrofoil learning.
Let's say I am oriented to Juice Dlab - 15m and I promise I will try to learn hydrofoiling somewhere else and come back to my home spot with hydrofoiling equipment as well :thumb:
Have you considered OR Flite A-Series? 14.5m is 2.49kg (Juice 13m is 2.73kg) and I guess it's less expensive than Juice.

According to OR, wind range is 7-20k for TT (75k rider)
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Re: Light wind Kites - Comparison between Juice Dlab vs Juice vs Core XR7 LW vs Ozone Zephyr

Postby Fatso » Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:36 am

Flyingseb wrote:
Mon Jan 02, 2023 9:36 pm
Fatso wrote:
Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:51 pm
Silfio wrote:
Mon Jan 02, 2023 7:32 pm
Thank you guys, the proplem of my home spot for hydrofoiling is that the surface of the water is covered in algae in sometimes during the year, especially during
the summerseason, therefore is not the best spot for hydrofoil learning.
Let's say I am oriented to Juice Dlab - 15m and I promise I will try to learn hydrofoiling somewhere else and come back to my home spot with hydrofoiling equipment as well :thumb:
Fair enough on the foil side of things with all that algae, but be under no illusion, if it's that bad, a bigger kite won't help you much algae greatly reduces what can be achieved on a TT and won't go near it's lower range whatsoever. Algae is a bonner killer.
Not sure what kind of algae you’re talking about, but it has never been a problem in my case, with a TT.
A TT is only skimming on the surface, with small inclined fins, there is not much algae can do to prevent it.
In light wind it's a huge issue, it catches and slows you down as you need to angle your board. You lose the ability to fully use the low end of a kite, we're talking proper algae terrain.
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Re: Light wind Kites - Comparison between Juice Dlab vs Juice vs Core XR7 LW vs Ozone Zephyr

Postby Silfio » Tue Jan 03, 2023 2:02 pm

Fatso wrote:
Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:51 pm
Silfio wrote:
Mon Jan 02, 2023 7:32 pm
Thank you guys, the proplem of my home spot for hydrofoiling is that the surface of the water is covered in algae in sometimes during the year, especially during
the summerseason, therefore is not the best spot for hydrofoil learning.
Let's say I am oriented to Juice Dlab - 15m and I promise I will try to learn hydrofoiling somewhere else and come back to my home spot with hydrofoiling equipment as well :thumb:
Fair enough on the foil side of things with all that algae, but be under no illusion, if it's that bad, a bigger kite won't help you much algae greatly reduces what can be achieved on a TT and won't go near it's lower range whatsoever. Algae is a bonner killer.
the algae is an issue also for TT and big kites. If the kite due to the light wind falls in the water, you would be very lucky if you will be able to relaunch the kite. the algae will twist around the lines, and with its weight will cause the kite looping...it's a nightmare :o . This condition will be even worse for me with hydrofoiling, considering that I will start as beginner and considering the additional difficulties due to the mast of the board. Therefore for light wind I was more oriented to big kites and TT or surfboards

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Re: Light wind Kites - Comparison between Juice Dlab vs Juice vs Core XR7 LW vs Ozone Zephyr

Postby Fatso » Tue Jan 03, 2023 3:50 pm

Silfio wrote:
Tue Jan 03, 2023 2:02 pm
Fatso wrote:
Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:51 pm
Silfio wrote:
Mon Jan 02, 2023 7:32 pm
Thank you guys, the proplem of my home spot for hydrofoiling is that the surface of the water is covered in algae in sometimes during the year, especially during
the summerseason, therefore is not the best spot for hydrofoil learning.
Let's say I am oriented to Juice Dlab - 15m and I promise I will try to learn hydrofoiling somewhere else and come back to my home spot with hydrofoiling equipment as well :thumb:
Fair enough on the foil side of things with all that algae, but be under no illusion, if it's that bad, a bigger kite won't help you much algae greatly reduces what can be achieved on a TT and won't go near it's lower range whatsoever. Algae is a bonner killer.
the algae is an issue also for TT and big kites. If the kite due to the light wind falls in the water, you would be very lucky if you will be able to relaunch the kite. the algae will twist around the lines, and with its weight will cause the kite looping...it's a nightmare :o . This condition will be even worse for me with hydrofoiling, considering that I will start as beginner and considering the additional difficulties due to the mast of the board. Therefore for light wind I was more oriented to big kites and TT or surfboards
Ideally you would kite at another spot, honestly proper algae sessions are terrible especially in light wind. It's just not worth it, maybe another spot with a foil could be nicer... Or take biking or something...

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Re: Light wind Kites - Comparison between Juice Dlab vs Juice vs Core XR7 LW vs Ozone Zephyr

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