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How to build a bar? Just the rod/pole item ~60cm. Anyone done it?

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Re: How to build a bar? Just the rod/pole item ~60cm. Anyone done it?

Postby peppedurso » Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:48 pm

ap888 wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:40 am
All done 1st bar so stoked on how it turned out never been so pumped to try a bar... :D
This one is for 4&5m 41cm bar..
Still have to install flag out line..
Not using the clam cleat how it wanted me to but should be fine lol
I highly discourage anyone to use that shackle! IT DOES NOT OPEN UNDER LOAD!!!

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Re: How to build a bar? Just the rod/pole item ~60cm. Anyone done it?

Postby ap888 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:20 pm

peppedurso wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:48 pm
ap888 wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:40 am
All done 1st bar so stoked on how it turned out never been so pumped to try a bar... :D
This one is for 4&5m 41cm bar..
Still have to install flag out line..
Not using the clam cleat how it wanted me to but should be fine lol
I highly discourage anyone to use that shackle! IT DOES NOT OPEN UNDER LOAD!!!
Agree this is the QR lol rope is easy to pull instead of putting finger into ring when connecting to rope on harness...
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Re: How to build a bar? Just the rod/pole item ~60cm. Anyone done it?

Postby ap888 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:23 pm

What is a good length for the kite to flag out on for the safety line...Is 3 meters ok ? What is the industry’s agverage flag out length :?:

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Re: How to build a bar? Just the rod/pole item ~60cm. Anyone done it?

Postby evan » Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:30 pm

ap888 wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:23 pm
What is a good length for the kite to flag out on for the safety line...Is 3 meters ok ? What is the industry’s agverage flag out length :?:
At least the distance between the powerline pigtails on your kite.

Most brands use the entire length of one powerline to flagout or 6-8m when they use some kind of stopper to prevent the bar from shooting all the way up the lines so somewhere around that length should be safe for all sizes.

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Re: How to build a bar? Just the rod/pole item ~60cm. Anyone done it?

Postby peppedurso » Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:29 am

ap888 wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:20 pm
peppedurso wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:48 pm
ap888 wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:40 am
All done 1st bar so stoked on how it turned out never been so pumped to try a bar... :D
This one is for 4&5m 41cm bar..
Still have to install flag out line..
Not using the clam cleat how it wanted me to but should be fine lol
I highly discourage anyone to use that shackle! IT DOES NOT OPEN UNDER LOAD!!!
Agree this is the QR lol rope is easy to pull instead of putting finger into ring when connecting to rope on harness...
I would rather use a Wichard 2673. Need to add a stopperball to improve grip, something like the fireball release system. Keep it simple and clean.
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Re: How to build a bar? Just the rod/pole item ~60cm. Anyone done it?

Postby ap888 » Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:34 am

^^thought the ronstan swivel shackle 70$ CAD was $$ that thing bit to much for what it is...
Using this for other bar...it was free and retro & much easier to untwist the lines :thumb:
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Re: How to build a bar? Just the rod/pole item ~60cm. Anyone done it?

Postby kite_hh » Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:22 pm

Indeed $70 seems pricey.

I like to keep it (very) simple.

This mechanism works and is well below 10 Euro.
download/file.php?id=85737&mode=view

However, using whatever parts you have lying around also makes a lot of sense. :thumb:

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Re: How to build a bar? Just the rod/pole item ~60cm. Anyone done it?

Postby ap888 » Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:55 pm

Just decided to sell ronstan snap shackle on eBay :lol: and ordered a wichard 2773 it’s a must to have a swivel integrated :thumb:
And gaining 15cm more bar throw over the bunk strap release at the moment 2773 super compact and functional :D

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Re: How to build a bar? Just the rod/pole item ~60cm. Anyone done it?

Postby kite_hh » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:21 pm

Haha. :-D
I like that you are so open to suggestions, but I have yet to understand them. ;-)

I see this Wichard as being inferior to the self constructed QR version above. It uses about the same space, it is more complicated to eject and it is way more expensive.

First you will always have one part dangling around. I'd be annoyed by that alone.
Then, this part could get stuck somewhere. Think murphy. Maybe even think safety line...

In case of emergency you will need (1) to find the right damn dangling thing and get a hold of it and then (2) figure out where to pull it to.

The self-build one is a simple and intuitive grab to the kite and shift away. Done.

Anyway, the wichard sure is a very nice piece of work and I do enjoy it when sailing.

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Re: How to build a bar? Just the rod/pole item ~60cm. Anyone done it?

Postby AndersP » Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:33 pm

What do you think about the new Wichard shackles?

Looks like you have more space to arrange your release system. You can release them under high load just like some of the other wichard shackles.
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