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Tips on making pig tails ?

Postby ap888 » Sun Feb 17, 2019 7:30 am

Anyone got tips on making pig tails regular size that are from 12-20cm loop to loop and loop to knot...long ones are easy but want to make smaller regular size ones how much to sew because the bury would be 15-18cm for a 3mm Dyneema looks like they are stitched up quite a bit does one need a sewing machine to make good pigtails...hand sewing should be fine right :?:

Already thought about folding line over and tie 8 knot in it but want to make real pigtails :thumb:

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Re: Tips on making pig tails ?

Postby evan » Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:05 am

Short spliced pigtails rely entirely on the strength of the sewing as the splices are way too short to hold any load. A decent sewing machine and strong quality polyester threads are a must.
Even then I personally don't like to go below 150mm total length for my pigtails on 3mm Dyneema.

If you definitely need a short pigtail, the folded ones with a locked knot are stronger. Melting the loose ends with a small flame into a blob is a good way to prevent the knot from slipping.
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Re: Tips on making pig tails ?

Postby ap888 » Sun Feb 17, 2019 3:09 pm

Exactly what wanted to hear thanks

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Re: Tips on making pig tails ?

Postby kite_hh » Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:05 am

What about using brummel lock splices? While the burying still is a very good idea I think the locking holds most of the load.

Not sure the "bury 50x diameter"-"rule" applies.
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Re: Tips on making pig tails ?

Postby ap888 » Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:22 am

^^^yeah know how to do Brummel those are only splices doing on all setups but didn’t wan2 make them so long but might just anyways was just wondering if it was possible to make regular ones without sewing machine..

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Re: Tips on making pig tails ?

Postby mgs » Sat Feb 23, 2019 3:16 pm

I make my pigtails using the “Locked Brummel Splice" method and then run it through my sewing machine “belt and braces” approach.
Hand stitching would be fine if you don’t have access to a sewing machine.
I use Liros D Pro 01505 3mm (950kg) line with Heminway & Bartlett sewing thread.

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Re: Tips on making pig tails ?

Postby kjorn » Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:35 am

ap888 wrote:
Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:22 am
^^^yeah know how to do Brummel those are only splices doing on all setups but didn’t wan2 make them so long but might just anyways was just wondering if it was possible to make regular ones without sewing machine..
I do a regular bury splice and sew it by hand. I do about 20 - 30 stitches. Do this for my depower line and bridle replacements. I've made a few pig-tails like this also, with them, if they are short I may bury the tail, then figure of 8 knot so the buried tail is part of the line I knot.

Not sure how safe all of that is, not had anything come lose yet!


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